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It’s extremely frustrating to hold the apparently controversial opinion that killing civilians is, consistently, a bad thing.

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You’re only worth moral consideration if those in power want you to be.

Wars, racism, homophobia, etc. These are just the results of those who have the power to ignore those they deem not worthy, doing whatever they want.

It ranges from current wars, to past wars, to the Holocaust, to 9/11, to eating animals, to Epstein, etc.

Maybe one day we will realize that someones worth should not be assigned by others.

We are all equal or we are all dead.

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The controversy is this. Do we REALLY want to vote for Trump who is going to take away our freedoms, dismantle democracy and probably won’t do anything to stop the genocide in Gaza anyway? Or are we going to vote for the candidate that definitely won’t stop the genocide in Gaza but will at least ensure we maintain a democracy? Its not a good choice either way but I have my own life to look out for and will vote accordingly.

The greatest service Biden could do to this country (and also the world) is make it so that felons can’t run for president and then drop out of the race.

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Let’s not forget that trump supported the move of Israel’s capital to goddamn Jerusalem

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So Hamas killing civilians is a bad thing too?

Yes, obviously. Why do you ask? Since you asked, I may as well ask, is Israel killing civilians a bad thing?

Gonna start calling out people showing support for Hamas at protests?

Sure, if you see them, kick them to the curb. Do you agree that there’s a difference between supporting Palestine and supporting Hamas?

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Just off reading headlines…is “entering” and “bombing” the same thing now?

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What Israel did was far worse. They bombed the hospitals, laid siege, raided the hospitals, killed doctors, abducted doctors, tortured patients and staff, and dug mass graves.

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Off headlines not.

Off reality Al Shifa is far more destroyed than the Ukrainian hospital.

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Non-combatant body counts?

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Far far higher as well. Including israel mass executing women and children.

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Well, we have established that the West is racist and supremacist centuries ago, nothing has changed.

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I wonder how it would read if they quoted the Russian military in the headline on the right.

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The Russian story was “defective Ukrainian air defense missle hit hospital”. But since that has now been debunked because of evidence of the missile being Russian. they’ll also just say something about a terrorist base.

Or actually, they will just still say it was a defective air defense missile. Looking at the amount of people here still repeating the lie about the military base it appears not to matter that it gets fully debunked. The drones will repeat anything they are told.

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Considering that Netanyahu was having corruption charges levied against him before October 7th… well, from the Israelis I’ve talked to, the intelligence was there to prevent the attack, and the brass let it happen. War time leaders tend to hold on to power a lot easier. In addition to the gas deposits off the Gazan coast, and the whole beach front property development thing that Israeli corporations are advertising. It’s terrible what has been happening in Gaza and the West Bank (obviously) BUUUT, I mean, they’re surrounded by much larger countries that are hostile to them. WHY they are hostile, well, that is where cracking open a history book comes in.

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Netanyahu is just the latest in a long list of demons, the invasion of Palestine didn’t start on October 7th.

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Terrible is understanding what have been done this will go as the crime of sententry

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I mean, it is the classic cycle of human hate right. I talked to a (gorgeous, I will add, sue me, I like pretty girls) Israeli girl for a few months after Oct 7th. Hearing her perspective of things was educating. If I was on a date and had someone at the table next to me get stabbed in the neck by a random passerby, I would be a bit jaded as well. Having regular alarms to hide from missile attacks etc. Obviously, genocide bad. The Palestinians have it far worse, and are being used as proxies by Iran because of the whole mini-cold war that has been going on in the middle east for a while. However, life is rarely black and white. Unless it’s like serial killer/rapist/torturer/illuminati shit. Deprogramming generational hatred on an individual basis takes a great degree of patience and understanding of nuance. Calling all Israelis evil monsters is NOT how you fix the problem, my 2 cents.

I will leave this song here as an example of the Israeli perspective, I thought it was pretty spicy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUMl58i4m0w

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In conversations like this where there is a never ending tit-for-tat of violent revenge I wonder why humans in gerneral just can’t stop being shitheads. Palestinians are treated like third-class people, their land slowly stolen, and face constant prejudice. So of course that fuels the violence towards Israel. Then Israel treats Palestinians like shit, and the cycle never stops. Why we have to dig our heels and force the other side to cede first like a couple 5 year olds arguing.

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