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Can you link me something she said that makes her a monster to you? Genuinely curious.

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she’s a terf. if you haven’t heard that by now idk how you found Lemmy.

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“Monster” may be a little extreme, but here’s a review of her body of work up to that point.

Generally, she has very questionable views on body image, her “sympathetic” characters are quick to judge and reinforce the status quo, her very questionable story line with S.P.E.W. and the House Elves, which resulted in Harry Potter fans rationalizing race based slavery.

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It’s not extreme. She is the most active, vocal, and prominent anti-trans advocate out there. She is a huge part of the push that is ruining people’s lives in the UK.

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My only issue with calling her a “monster” reducing the criticism to childish name calling and melodrama. All the things you said are more accurate and adult criticisms. People aren’t going to agree with what qualifies someone as a “monster” and will chip away at your criticisms by getting into the weeds on semantics.

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10 points

Damn echo chambers are real lol. I feel like all I’ve heard for the past five years is how she’s a walking, tweeting shitstorm.

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Yeah, I’d keep “monster” for people like Kissinger or Mengele, not for people that make fun of phrases like “people who menstruate”. But I was genuinely curious and now I know.

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Her rhetoric has been incredibly influential. She is like Anita Bryant. Absolute fucking monster.

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This here is also a good video to find out why one would call her that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou_xvXJJk7k

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Here’s some examples though this doesn’t appear to be entirely inclusive: https://glaad.org/gap/jk-rowling/

I appreciate that you’re willing to learn and reaching out for resources.

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Interesting, thanks.

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As I understand it, she mocks T people. That’s it, as far as I’ve seen. But I pay little attention to any of these people as I simply don’t care.

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That was the worst? If they came up with that on their own and didn’t just copy someone then that’s pretty creative at least.

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Its not what the quote says, but who the quote comes from.

JKR is a hateful, raging TERF. Something like Voldemort for trans people.

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You should read this from her own words. I know you won’t read it all the way through because your mind is probably made up. Maybe someone will come along and see her in a different light though. I read the whole thing. Zero hate of any kind. https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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Yeah, no. It’s not just one accidental like.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk-rowling-transphobic-statements-timeline-history-controversy

Also there is hate in the blog post you linked

So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.

This is a terrible argument because if a man wanted to abuse women in the restroom, he wouldn’t need to transition to do so. He’d just walk in. There isn’t an armed guard at the door of the women’s bathroom.

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I’m NB and quoting Harry Potter just sounds like you hate me

Edit: also I get very few people messaging me first

Edit 2: I really don’t understand the downvotes outside of maybe just enjoying Harry Potter. This is just a personal experience I’ve had.

Harry Potter stuff directly funds anti-trans organizations and that leads to the furthering decline of mental health among trans people which leads to them dying.

Sure, an opening message doesn’t send any money to JK but it’s a massive red flag that someone is willing to send money to JK.

People are allowed to enjoy things, but in turn, I’m also allowed to decide not to talk to someone for funding hate speech.

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I’m NB (to the extent that I’ve had surgery to remove gendered parts of me) and sometimes I just let my friends enjoy one of the biggest cultural events of their childhood without making everything about me because I’m capable of seeing that their actual actions have always been wholeheartedly supportive of me and that’s the part I actually care about.

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And I’m glad you’re able to do that and have people around you that support you. This doesn’t change the fact that I don’t enjoy people who promote something that funds people like me dying.

If you’re able to get over that, that’s awesome and I believe you deserve good things, I am simply not able to.

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The downvotes are because you dared to be trans.

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10 points

I guess it is bad in the sense that it’s not great pick-up line to use in your case, but I do like the creativity. Would’ve been better used to someone with some Harry Potter stuff in their bio though

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wowwww a trans person sharing their experience being heavily downvoted.

let’s all say it together!!

Lemmy is transphobic as fuck!!

edit: the downvotes literally just prove my point ✨

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I think the people downvoting took “quoting Harry Potter sounds like you hate me” as “quoting Harry Potter means you hate trans people” (stated as fact). The OP said this is how it feels to them, we shouldn’t downvote people for sharing how they experienced something.

Also I think people are reading it as “the worst pickup line.” rather than “the worst pickup line (for me as a NB person)”

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wowwww a trans person making unfair assumptions/criticisms of people for quoting an extremely popular piece of pop culture.

let’s all say it together!!

Being trans does not grant a prejudice pass!!

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4 points

Maybe just don’t be a raging asshole about everything all the time.

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Being non-binary is not the same as being trans… and perhaps they were being downvoted for a different reason.

I always find it odd when people assume why someone is being downvoted. You never know why someone votes the way they do.

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I’m sorry you have to deal with so many ignorant and apologist people.

Everyone who exuses the hate Rowling spreads because of the Harry Potter cult is partly responsible for the harm and danger this causes to trans and non binary people.

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14 points

After reading this thread I feel like the original post is more like a soapbox than a shitpost. No personal opinion about the politics but I thought this was a humour sub.

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It was not originally intended to be a soap box.

I thought my reaction to the pickup line would be found humorous especially with the juxtaposition of JK Rowling being a monster.

I’ve apparently just spent too much time in mostly trans spaces that I underestimated the support JK has on Lemmy outside of trans communities.

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7 points

Most people disconnect the media from the creator… Not all, but hating on everyone who likes Harry Potter makes you look like a lunatic.

Fuck, Tolkien had some fucked up ideas too, but I’m not going around calling people out on it.

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I would agree if it weren’t for the fact that JK has done multiple massive anti-trans media campaigns and has also stated multiple times that the profits from her creation go towards hurting trans people.

If she kept that a secret or anything then sure… But it’s not exactly a hidden fact that money gained from Harry Potter is being put towards hate.

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I thought it was funny.

As far as supporting JKR goes: JKR is a horrible person who no-one should listen to but Harry Potter is pop culture. I’m pretty comfortable personally with disconnecting the two in my head. I don’t think people enjoying Harry Potter should be seen as “supporting JKR”, hell a lot of them wouldn’t even be aware of JKRs noise.

Obviously I haven’t read the comments here a ton but are people really supporting JKR or are you just treating people enjoying Harry Potter as support for JKR? I think there should be a distinction. It’s not really people’s job to deep dive into the personal lives of the creators or people involved in every piece of art they enjoy.

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It’s a little bit of both of what you listed. Enjoying Harry Potter on its own is generally fine… The problem I have with it personally, especially in this case, is that JKR has specifically stated multiple times that the funds from it go directly to anti-trans organizations.

People are allowed to enjoy whatever they want to enjoy, but if that thing directly funds hate… I am likely to think less fondly of them.

Similarly, if someone says their favorite person is Andrew Tate, I probably won’t match with them.

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I’m going to message this to every woman, femboy and twink on bumble and then maybe I can finally get some ass.

Edit: Welp, I’m banned now

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Dating apps and whatnot are a joke anyways, these days.

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54 points

I can get my dick sucked every few hours all week.

Caveat: by men

Plot twist: I’m bi

Double twist: I’m married

Final twist: I’m lying

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26 points

I knew it! You do the dick sucking.

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It’s fascinating that profits hinge on providing a slightly below par experience on most forms of social media, dating apps included. Facebook et al require it for rage interactions while dating apps need it to maintain a userbase to populate and pay for the service.

Love me some lemmy.

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To be honest I don’t think it does need to keep the users who succeed to stay profitable. It’s just they can’t handle the numbers not growing every year. There are always new people trying to find a date, and I think a service that wasn’t greedy could make something that works for the users and the company both.

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14 points

I just deleted my ‘Boo’ account.

What an absolute joke. Its basically instagram, and almost everyone on it is completely braindead in discussion threads… and almost all the image posts are either I’m so pretty! or cats or landscapes, or Why are people so hard to find?

Kippo is even more hilarious. Nearly every profile is just trying to recruit you to watch their E girl twitch stream or onlyfans and is not interested in dating.

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Boo is the best dating app I’ve used outside of Facebook Dating. It’s still pretty shitty though, and I wholly agree with your criticism about the discussion threads.

Actually gamifying the use of their app as a social media platform to gain further privileges on the dating side of the app is a genius idea though, but it’s executed so poorly. If it had the high quality discussions of Lemmy/Reddit, or the plethora of edgy memes you find on 9GAG, Facebook, iFunny, etc, then it could be a game changer.

I could go on a massive rant about how Tinder is dogshit and every other dating app has been bought out and transformed into yet another Tinder clone by greedy monopolistic cunts who the Federal Trade Commission should have shut down years ago, but I’ve already wasted a lot of my energy ranting about my shitty experiences before.

Maybe we wouldn’t have an incel epidemic if the modern dating experience wasn’t so awful for men.

As I’ve said before, Facebook Dating is the best experience I’ve had, and that’s primarily because Mark Zuckerberg is more motivated by harvesting all your personal information, not by suckering you into paying 4 times the price of a WoW subscription just to see who liked your profile.

Kippo is even more hilarious. Nearly every profile is just trying to recruit you to watch their E girl twitch stream or onlyfans and is not interested in dating.

Sounds like Okcupid to me. I get a lot of matches on there, but they’re all either:

  • Scammers trying to lull me into a crypto investment scheme.
  • E-girls using the platform to plug their OnlyFans
  • African and South-East Asian ladies who discovered GPS spoofing and are on the prowl for a Western husband and the means to a green card.
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So Boo is full of pussy pics?

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People said that 10 years ago, and i always disagreed. Now a days it’s an absolute nightmare. Everything that used to be free is behind a paywall. Set the max distance to 30km? Fuck it, here’s people from thailand and china and kenya.

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Just glad to be out of that field entirely. Married for almost 5 years, met 2 years before that on OkCupid. Apparently she was nervous about our first actual date and her friend told her it was just pizza, she didn’t have to marry me. Never been so happy her friend was wrong.

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7 points

It’s crazy to hear that as way back that’s how I met my wife and how a lot of my friends met their spouses.

Sucks to hear it got enshittified

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4 points

I met my wife on the internet before social media, when it was still extremely stigmatized.

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People still totally meet and have success on dating sites. A friend of mine and his wife separated about a year ago, a few months ago he got on Bumble, went on some dates, and met someone he’s now getting serious with.

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4 points

I mean, a few of them are probably fine if you’re into hookup culture, but the people who are tend to ruin it for the people who aren’t

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No, actually. I’m really into hookup culture and it’s still shit.

It’s like, those of us who just want sex have all the “I want a monogamous life partner” people thrown at us, and those of us who want a beautiful relationship have all the “I just want to fuck around” people thrown at us. It’s the exact opposite of what anyone wants.

That gives me a brilliant idea though. I should team up with one of my friends who wants a long term relationship. We should refer people to each other.

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14 points

You should have gone with the name PeniusWeniusGenius

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10 points

is that another spell

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7 points

I was like ‘maybe I can help a guy out’ but I have a strict furry-only policy and I didn’t see anything from a quick glance of your profile suggesting you weren’t a normie. Sorry my man.

(I don’t fit the categories anyway but any is better than nothing :p)

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I’m curious how that policy came about

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Long read, just kinda rambling :p

The first guy I ‘dated’ (early in my life, closeted, neither one of us made it ‘official’) was a good first experience and stepping stone, and during that time I joined the furry fandom. I found the community very kind and welcoming, and except for fringe cases, it was what I wanted to submerge myself in, likely for life. I was (am) a massive geek, and because of that + other ‘weird’ factors, I had only a couple friends in grade+middle school, and a half-dozen in high school. But the fandom was so welcoming and non-judgemental, and compared to the hell that ‘normal’ people were to me, it was a no-brainer that I should start dating other furs. A few months into my second relationship, I made it a rule: furries only.

I lost a few (not) friends, a clan I was a member of booted me, and a few other negative events happened in that first year or so. But all those people are, frankly, shitstains - if you cut a person you’ve known for a year+ out of your life because of an interest in anthropomorphic animals, you are a narrow-minded dumbfuck. But it was for the best - I’ve met so many great furs in the 20 years I’ve been here, and I’ve been able to speak my mind about almost any topic without fear of judgment or retribution. The vast majority are well-educated and so I geek out easily, once I get comfortable with someone new.

While my perspective on the general public has shifted towards (but not to) the positive side of things over the last decade, I’m not really interesting in broadening my dating pool just to get attacked, harassed, belittled, or worse. Hell, I’m gay, furry, satanic, disabled - the target of many, just because of my beliefs, my body, my existing. But in the fandom, it’s not like that. It’s comfy and safe here.

For the right person, someone who at the very least understands who I am, what I like, and why… maybe. But if they were really the right person, they’d throw on a fursuit head and come be silly and happy with me. I’m not going to be less ‘weird’, so if they aren’t at my level, they must be willing to rise to the challenge :p

I’ve seen furs in their teens, with parents at conventions. I’ve seen grandparents and similar furs at cons, too. And of course, everywhere in between. Life is boring as fuck, and I’m far from the typical ‘normal’. So why should my dating and relationships be any different? Give me the ‘weird’, and skip the haters.

E: and ofc this all applies to flings, too - I tend to catch feelings, so the two go hand-in-hand

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0 points

Bumble with that feather-weight ban hammer

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Now this feels like a vintage meme.

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