Ford’s office made the announcement Monday and said the government is also banning other American companies from provincial contracts going forward

🤭🤭🤭🤭

187 points

Hit them where it hurts. Their wallets!

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Just be precise, watch out for the ‘little guy’. It’s not sane US citizens doing this. We’re experiencing a coup over here, neighbor. And the sane ones are trying to figure out how to get back to being good neighbors, and stop the corporate coup. srsly.

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It’s not sane US citizens doing this

At some point we need to hit their pocket too.

33% of American didn’t even bother to show up and vote. They’re complicit in this, and they deserve the pinch to wake the fuck up as to what their country is doing.

And if that’s not enough, well… the sane ones might need to get off their ass and start doing something about the rampant assholes running around shitting on everyone.

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Speaking of turnout, Ontario has an election coming up. Last time, Doug Ford (Conservative) was voted back in with a turnout of 43%. So about 57% of Ontarians didn’t bother to take a few minutes to vote. And now our healthcare and education systems are being dismantled for the sake of profit. Maybe on February 27th we can get a slightly less shameful turnout and vote for someone who will actually stand up for Ontario’s public services and stand up against the USA’s bullying and threats?

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Great, sure, and I’m in the 33% that said, and is saying “hell to the power of fuck NO”.

Edit: By which I mean I voted against the current shitshow. Sometimes my engrish is unclear. ;-)

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The biggest problem is the “wake-up” isn’t going to be in favor of reality. All blame is going to fall on the people working hardest to actually make effective change. There is far too much propaganda and yellow journalism in the US for that hurt to be directed in the right way.

It’s much easier to direct an angry mob with simple lies than complex truth.

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8 points

There is evidence that voter suppression + not counting/disqualifying forced provisional votes created Trump victory.

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Why don’t we bring our skills together in a massive co-op that pays us fairly, that starts to compete with these mega corporations

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Lol, I did vote for all the good it did. I’m no more complicit in the actions of Trump’s administration than any run-of-the-mill Russian civilian is for the actual land war being waged by their government.

Me, you, and all the other little guys worldwide, we are being punked by global oligarchy.

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33% of American didn’t even bother to show up and vote. They’re complicit in this

Millions in CA, whose votes went to the Dems. So tired of people pretending they can just lump all non voters together when they can’t

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With all due respect, and I’m sorry to those who voted Kamala, this is our only option.

The only way Canada succeeds is when the American people are hurting enough that they push for change from the inside.

I’m very sorry to small honest US companies, but we don’t have the luxury of choice or leniency on this matter anymore.

Also this is the second time Trump has been elected. Whatever excuses people have, I can’t look at this as a one off or crazy event. I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.

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As an American, I hope you all please keep doing what you’re doing. Most U.S. citizens may be too chicken shit to say or do anything (yet), but witnessing solidarity among Canadians who refuse to stand down gives me hope.

As soon as the election was called, I knew my life would be fucked. The U.S. oligarchs think they’re beyond reproach because spineless U.S. citizens aren’t doing anything besides lick boot. The rest of us, feeling trapped and powerless, feel supported by this type of news. Do what you must.

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Also this is the second time Trump has been elected. Whatever excuses people have, I can’t look at this as a one off or crazy event. I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.

tRump is not an aberration, the world is now seeing the USA with the mask dropped. Oligarchy is baked into the U.S. constitution, rich white males have ALWAYS held the power there, despite all the window dressing and PR campaigns. The county was founded on genocide, built on slavery and imperialism, they burned women at the stake for fuck’s sake. The slogan “Kill a Commie for Christ” is not just a bumper sticker for half of them, but a bucket list item.

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7 points

I have to see this as the future of American diplomacy and how we can expect to be treated.

American exceptionalism and manifest destiny never went away.

They have been part of the American psyche for generations.

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I understand. And of course my concerns are mostly aimed towards those, regardless of nationality who are less well off than myself. When I suggest one support local and small, I know that lessens both of our larger groupings (nations, corporations), at the same time it strengthens our smaller groupings (communities, neighborhoods, families). If you wish, you could buy bicycle parts from these small companies, regardless of location, for instance I just heard of a bike frame builder, Mone’ (http://www.monebikes.com/) in Silver City, NM who runs his operation out of a van. If you look, you can find similar in your area. Together, supporting the small circles, we’ll move forward humanely. I feel your respect. And, hey, look at us, doing international relations, on a non-corporate federated social media. Nothing to feel sorry about in that. Peace.

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43 points

As a fellow American, I hate to say it, but them’s the breaks. Plenty of Russians suffer under sanctions for a war they had nothing to do with. Even though it’s not our fault as we weren’t Trump supporters, we’re in his stupid boat and will pay the price. It sucks.

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I’m one of the sane Americans and honestly screw this whole, “think of the children” crap. America as a whole voted for Idiocracy by voting in not just Trump but all of these damn moron, spineless Republicans and yeah Americans, all of us, deserve all of this. That’s how democracy works unfortunately.

Honestly, unless you’re out there protesting like it’s Ferguson every day, you’re not doing anything to actively to push back on the insanity so yeah, you deserve it too, just like I do with just working to keep surviving this blossoming dictatorship.

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Trump won a majority, and the GOP won the house and senate. It’s not all US citizens, but if it’s not a majority, it’s close enough. Is it really a coup if it’s what the majority wanted?

This is hardly a new thing for the US. The world has seen the US elect Bush Jr, who alienated the world with his desire to invade Iraq. Remember Freedom Fries? At the same time that was going on, Canada, which did support the US when it invaded Afghanistan, said that Iraq was a bridge too far, and refused to participate in that. The result was the GOP drumming up anti-Canada hate, people boycotting Canadian products, etc. Then in the years since Bush, the US has elected Trump not once but twice. This is who you guys are now.

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Tru.p won a majority of who showed up.

More effort on the political right was spent on making voting more difficult and driving voter apathy (“Genocide Joe”) than on getting people to vote for Trump, because Trump.would never win if everyone showed up.

He’s the only President to never reach 50% approval ratings. He’s objectively the least-popular President in US History. The only way to get him back into office was to reduce voter turnout.

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8 points

This is far far worse than Junior or Trump’s first term. Elon Musk has taken control of three important government agencies including the Treasury. People gotta wake up, it’s really bad and we’re two weeks in.

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4 points

This is who you guys are now.

And have been for some time. That’s why it’s frustrating to see all the posts from people who think if Democrats would just move to the left, they’d win. I’m sorry but no. No, they wouldn’t. It’s frustrating because the right/conservative majority isn’t that large. Maaaybe if we didn’t have the electoral college, there would be some shifting to the left, but it wouldn’t be as much as the left thinks it would be. (braces for downvotes)

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3 points

Nope, respectfully I disagree. It isn’t who I am, and it isn’t who anyone I associate with is. Have you ever considered that First Past The Post voting is incredibly problematic?

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Yes. But American citizens need to be the ones to stop the Nazi musk/trump regime. March and strike by the millions. Oust them.

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5 points

Something something second ammendment.

We have all let this happen in one way or another, via complacency, but y’all benefit from being a fascist state and informal empire together. Y’all can suffer the costs of it together, too.

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5 points

Could you explain what you mean by watch out for the little guy?

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Yes, of course. My neighbors, friends, and family working 2-3 jobs just to pay rent, and stay fed. If the little guy were a business owner, it’s them and a partner and maybe a handful of employees, NOT them and 500+ employees. The VAST majority of business in the US is or at least was businesses with less than 500 employees, a.k.a. the definition of small business. Which even seems big to me. My office is me and my life partner, for example. Does that answer your question? :-)

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I mean they voted for the cou. So yes it is Americans doing this. And I don’t care if they didn’t vote for this crowd they didn’t show up so yes they voted for this.

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2 points

Were experiencing a coup yes, but the American little guy has their head up their ass. Don’t let us starve for sure, but if Trump triggers the most financially difficult time in the average American’s life maybe our countryfolk will learn for once.

I don’t want a tight and difficult few years. It was hard before and I’m terrified of my upcoming financial situation. But also our voting populace asked for this.

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A very slight majority of those who voted, combined with about 19million who didn’t or couldn’t vote. But yes, otherwise I agree.
Hoping for the best, peparing for the worst. :-/

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I’m sure Trump will do that. That’s why he was elected right?

Let’s see if one of greatest American businessmen of all time (/s) can protect his citizens from the trade war he started.

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34 points

Musk will sue them for boycotting him.

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27 points

In Canadian court? Lmao

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9 points

Like he cares about reality.

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7 points

iLL sUe yOu!!1!

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4 points

It’s a start, but will he even feel a $100 million loss?

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5 points

He might not. Maybe Starlink will.

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It’s not money. It’s power.

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126 points

It is interesting to see that Canadian apathy has suddenly turned into a united stand for Canada.

I heard a 10 year old kid in the store yesterday, “Dad, can I get this? I checked , it is made in Canada”

It sucks it has come to this.

Doug Ford is a douche, but he is enough of a douche to not be politically correct in terms of relations with the USA.

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32 points

I wish I was Canadian

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I don’t, but that’s mostly because I like having very good Internet access and I’m European.

If I was USian, I’d wish I was Canadian.

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What’s your Internet? I’ll you mine if your tell me yours.

I’m gigabit both directions and I could get as high as 3. I’ve heard they are testing 5 some areas. My 1gbit is around 90 of Canadian money. It’s fibre to my apt.

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Sucks because my profession doesn’t really exist in Canada, so I can’t bring anything of value if I try to immigrate there.

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7 points

Many of us act like Americans from 10 years ago. Be careful what you wish for.

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I see Canadian apathy as a coping mechanism. We’ve been so fucked over in so many small ways over such a long timeframe that we can’t possibly give a fuck about so much of the bullshit that’s happening. We simply don’t have the energy to even pretend to care.

We’ll still show up to the booths and vote when asked (a lot of us will at last), but other than that, we’re expecting and un-phased that things are getting worse constantly. Whether that bullshit is coming from our government or something from a neighbor or whatever, doesn’t matter.

Our apathy should not be confused with either a willingness to take action when we feel strongly about something, nor an inability to take action.

I am Canadian, and every person I’ve met who can say the same has a lot of National pride. We’re known for being kind, and we’re proud of it. Push us the wrong way, and we’ll burn down the white house. (iykyk)

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We need more French blood. Government tries to pull a fast one, they take to protesting immediately

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It is interesting to see that Canadian apathy has suddenly turned into a united stand for Canada.

American (and Canadian) politicians have fucked over Canada every step of the way for a long as I can remember but it was always done with the thinnest veneer of diplomacy to cover up the absolute disregard for an entire country’s population. This is the first time that a politician has been dumb enough to fuck over not only the people of Canada but also it’s oligarchs. Canada’s ruling class has decided it’s ok to revolt against our neighbour’s bad behaviour and so it’s being spun by the news and politicians as ‘Canadian Patriotism.’

edit: I see this is a bit controversial. I’m not saying that it is bad that, right now, Canadians are unified in identifying the bad guy and saying “no, you’ve gone to far.” I’m saying that we should have been saying this for years but our politicians, the rich people who direct them and the media companies that they own, have been actively stopping us up until now.

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13 points

Nope. You can’t let trump bully us into becoming part of the USA. If this is what it takes for Canada to grow balls I’m all for it.

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But can you allow trump to bully the US enough that some of us want to secede and join Canada?

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90 points

I know Ford makes bad decisions, but I am all for this decision. Punched right at the core of the problem.

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I just love the 100% tariff on teslers, too. Tho that’s nor ford’s idea.

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Have officials pushed for that yet? That would be perfect. It’s an action that shows the whole world (or Canada in this case) understands the situation very clearly.

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I saw an article yesterday, maybe Freeland is her name. Recently of the gov’t, and running for office, I think. Ah, here 'tis…

" Canadian MP Chrystia Freeland: “If Donald Trump slaps 25% tariffs on Canadian goods, we must hit back—dollar for dollar—starting with 100% tariffs on all Tesla vehicles and U.S. wine, beer, and spirits. We must protect Canadian workers and businesses.” "

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8 points

Freeland has talked about it.

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The starlink decision itself was sketchy

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@jerkface @ontario @vatlark yeah, I see thst as an election move*, as much as a trade war move.

* which, true to form, goes against our election-period conventions 🤨

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He’s doing this to save himself. Ontarians need to get this mobster out. VOTE

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It’s nice in theory, but if there’s already a contract, who much is it going to cost to get out of it? You can’t just “rip it up” and then act like it never existed.

Also, Ford has already backtracked on this with the 30 day extension on the tariffs.

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74 points

Canada will be more efficient without the Musk.

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The whole world would.

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I peeked into conservative subs, and people are cheering “owning” Canada for not treating us fairly.

…WTF? Has this been going on for a while?

Other than family with some Canadian ties, the only real sentiment I’ve heard before the inauguration was is that Canadians are overly polite, even among conservative family. The fentanyl thing seems… what?

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/03/canada-respond-trump-tariff-trade-war

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Keep in mind that a lot of “conservative” opinions are bought and paid for… They literally hire people to spread propaganda and stir shit up, around the world. For example, https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-ballingall-conservative-leadership-canada-proud-1.6433088

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This is part of how we know it’s a cult they’ve formed. Probably for many on both a personal and a societal level, they’re getting isolated from friends and family who warn them, and will believe whatever lies they’re told by the cult leader scamming them. It will probably take some hard economic realities in their day-to-day lives for the ones who are capable to break out of the spell they’re under. And even then, there will likely be a cluster who double down repeatedly in the belief their “win” is just over the horizon, like the tragic BBBY investor cult.

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The fentanyl thing seems… what?

Like a blatant fucking lie?

This whole bullshit trade war is based on Trump lying. About everything.

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13 points

I’d like to see how many American guns are used in Canadian crimes.

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“When handguns involved in crimes were traced in 2021, they were overwhelmingly - 85% of the time - found to have come from the United States.” There were 8,047 victims of violent crime where a firearm was present in 2021 alone.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/fighting-gun-crime-canada-has-an-american-problem-2022-07-27/

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Most of them.

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Some conservative sub’s are being heavily moderated and comments are mass deleted. Some I notice the top comments gave very few upvotes and only two standing comments that agree

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8 points

I’ve only seen this recently myself, when the orange shit stain started mentioning trade deficits… but they seem to grasp that concept about as well as they do tariffs.

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7 points

Any conservative forum is an enforced circlejerk.

Has been for a decade.

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An argument I’ve seen is that the Canadian druglords are just that much better at getting drugs through the porous Canadian border without getting caught. Yeah I know it’s ridiculous but it’s so hard to fight this antilogic particularly with government data disappearing as we speak…

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That doesn’t make sense and isn’t even how borders work. Most countries are not concerned with what leaves but what comes in, because their laws stop at the border. The states certainly doesn’t care about all the guns leaving their country for Canada and Mexico.

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When entering the US, it’s the US border guards who are doing the checks. Perhaps they should improve their own border security.

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