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ITT tankies pretend they don’t know that legal arguments are meant for court and are made to argue from every angle.

No, this isn’t an admission that the primaries were rigged. They weren’t. It’s a hypothetical argument meant to progress a legal case to summary judgment, where the lawyer argued that even if everything the plaintiff said was correct, the DNC would still win the case.

Essentially, what the lawyers for the Democrats were doing was “if I grant everything you claim for the sake of argument, you would still lose, and here’s why.” That doesn’t admit anything. OP knows it, but since he’s a literal Stalin-humping fascist who just wants to see anyone who wishes for a better world fail, he doesn’t care.

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whats itt mean

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It may not have been an admission that the primaries were rigged, and I know nothing about the OP, but nevertheless, the primaries were rigged.

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Which means you got actual evidence right? And this isn’t some sort of assumption based on the stats not choosing the candidate of your choice, right?

Unless you mean gerrymandering, but everyone knows that is rigged.

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The primaries weren’t gerrymandered, that only applies to the US house general election.

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Did you not watch the Iowa primary? It was all out in the opem. They didn’t expect Sanders to make a strong showing so they dragged the vote count out for days. There were videos of districts choosing candidates with a coin flip, and visibly turning the coin over if Sanders was chosen. Their cronies at MSNBC and CNN were announcing a landslide against Sanders to sway public opinion even though it hadn’t happened. They set up the districts so that even though Sanders had the overall vote count, Buttigieg still won the delegate count.

And this isn’t even getting into the super rigged element of superdelegates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OI1ubnuB_Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqbf1J3CDw

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comment from lemm.ee opinion discarded

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Sing it with me now, folks: 🎶… o’er the laaaaaaand of the freeeee🎶

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I do see value in harm reduction, TBH. Dems are shit but, statistically, anti-electoralism is functionally equivalent to voting for the far-right. So, I see it as a way to at least make it take some work for politicians to pretend that the tenets of neoliberalism and fascism are supported by as wide a group as claimed and attempt to reduce their influence in local elections (ex. the coordinated efforts to subvert school boards and have [further] right-wing propaganda taught as fact).

Don’t mistake this as actually thinking that Libs are going to help unless forced, though. They’re absolutely Lucy in the picture.

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I do see value in harm reduction

Categorically, regarding the still-open concentration camps across the southern border, the murderously neglectful lack of a meaningful covid response, the expanded oil drilling and permissive retention of the previous regime’s planet-burning deregulation policies and the tax cuts and kickbacks to the rick being maintained, harm is not being reduced at this point.

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Relatively speaking, it really still is. It can always get worse. And it would currently be much worse for LGBTQ+ people under a further right-wing government.

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This is why I’m a leftist not a lib. I vote Democrat bc no choice but I want more progressives in office…

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but I want more progressives in office

You’re not getting them because that’s not what the ruling class wants from the DNC.

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Then stop voting for libs

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Better than voting for gqp. I vote progressive in primaries and forced into the other bc no one has the spines to fix the system to ranked elimination voting. I’m leftist bc at least they’re not actively trying to unalive me like the right

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I’m leftist bc at least they’re not actively trying to unalive me like the right

They’ll just kneel in Solidarity with you as the right tries to unalienable you.

Progress.

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No you don’t understand, their alternative is not to vote red, the alternative is not to vote and then complain that the results are fucked because no metter what they voted it would be fucked so they need a revolution, blood will flow, yada yada.

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As someone else posted on this site

“there are two types of democratic voters, centrist conservatives and hostages”

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I mean yea sounds about right. The moderates are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Esp when they randomly flip parties and screw us over on rights and encourage the gerrymandering to get worse 🙃

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There’s progressives, as well as a good breakdown of demsocs. You can be pleasantly surprised about some parts of Biden’s presidency without being a centrist conservative who would have had him near the top of your list

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Ok Hillary sit the fuck down.

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