This is just defeatist.

Fifteen years ago there was no significant organization left of the Democratic Party. The growth in leftist numbers and organization since then has been enormous. Why are we suddenly at the point where there can be no further movement?

Would be the one thing he could do that would potentially restrict the power of the president, too.

Sticking to the actual facts, both Republicans and Democrats are doing fucked up shit.

You’re right, and you’re right that we should point that out, too.

What I’m saying is that we should stick to the bad things Democrats actually do, not exaggerate. There is no need to exaggerate because Dems do plenty of horrible shit already, and exaggeration doesn’t persuade people who don’t already agree with you.

If this is just a space for lefties, we shouldn’t get so high on our own supply that we forget how to talk to libs, or the necessity of persuading people to join us.

If this is a lefty space that is frequently visited by non-leftists, and can be used as a way to persuade them, then we shouldn’t be staking out the hottest possible take and telling people they should be shot if they disagree.

I’m not saying anything close to that. “Democrats will piss and moan and then go right along with the worst shit Republicans do” is basically the opposite.

Sticking to the actual facts – Democrats are immediately going along with this horrible thing Republicans did – does not mean pulling punches, or watering down how shitty Democrats are.

The “heads need to roll” point is one we can use. Any upper-level Democrat who’s had access to Biden and lied about his condition should resign. They’re the one saying the stakes couldn’t be higher, and they lie about how inept their candidate is? And that’s not even getting into the issue of having an inept day-to-day president.

Rank-and-file Dems won’t get behind “Biden is a war criminal who should be arrested and turned over to the ICC.” This is the type of idea they will get behind, and it can be used to eventually bring some to of the left of the party.

Ah, you’re right.

Yeah, the decision is not “you have to do this now,” it’s “this option is legal.” Dems on the LA City Council are choosing to be as punitive as they legally can be.