I would not say they were “sane” per se, it’s just that they’ve been replaced by even more overt bare-faced extremists. The Overton window on what is extremely right wing keeps getting pushed more and more to the right. A loud mouth performative asshole they believe is beyond punishment due to his “billions” has given them a permission structure to be who they always really wanted to be. These are the people that didn’t understand that Archie Bunker was supposed to be a parody, not a hero.

Yes, this. No Republicans at all should be allowed into office. Ever. Don’t let them fool you, the agenda marches on regardless if they are “moderate” or “reasonable” or not.

What should he have done against fascism?

Which ones were sane in the Ronnie Raygun era? Most of the Bush team were retreads from those days.

I bet that was strategic, to be honest. VPs are designed to mostly stay out of the limelight.

I’ll admit it, I don’t want her, either (not that someone like me has any influence). But she’d be a better option than Joe.

Especially if she picks the right VP. And please, for fucks sake, I hope they do a good job picking a VP. Don’t rule out cishet white males, as a for instance, FFS. The Democrats love to play stupid identity political games and constantly do these self-owns. Although if AOC has a clone they could choose as a VP, that would be fantastic. But that’s not because they tick some arbitrary set of diversity checkboxes…it’s about policies.

He beat donnie 4 years ago. He’s not the same man. Also, Covid is not in the same state as it was. And he didn’t have to fight against the (admittedly mostly false) narrative about inflation and so on.

Something like 2/3 of Democrats want him to bow out. Why won’t he take that advice and end it now, before he completely soils his decades-long legacy of service?

That must be why the Republicans desperately want to run against him.

It’s possible your experience is very anecdotal. Everyone I talk to that is not magabrained says they’ll vote for him, if they must. That’s the key part: if they must. Most of them wish there was almost any other Democrat in there.

The polls show that 2/3 of Democrats want him to bow out, but apparently Biden and team is more concerned with his ego. Again, if he stays in, I’m voting for him. But I think the Democrats will get absolutely crushed all up and down the ballot if he stays in.

Those apathetic voters that would vote for donnie or not vote at all, and all over the “genocide joe” thing, should give pause and ask themselves how they are helping the situation by assisting donnie.

As for the independent voters, I’m talking about the low-information voters for the most part in this instance. The kind of people deeply influenced by optics. Optics like donnie getting nearly killed, then raising his fist for a photo op. Or optics like #BidenSoOld, Biden cancelling a speech for Covid, Biden bombing at a debate. I’m not even sure most of these people know or remember that Gaza is happening. Just like when Biden was going on about NATO. Again, it’s doubtful these low-information voters care much about NATO. I doubt even high-information voters place NATO as their number one concern…

(In other cases, when I say independent voters, I am usually referring to what the Republicans typically call themselves when they don’t want to admit they are voting for tools like Bush and donnie)