I think a sports community might be a better fit for this. I’m also noting that you’re getting downvotes, which are necessarily off-instance since they aren’t supported on Beehaw.

But right now I don’t find any sports communities while searching, and so that makes me think it can stay here for now. This is related to an international event, even if it is a sports event.

Not every protestor is necessarily prepared to face big jail sentences.

Take some time to think about whether these are positive contributions you’re making, or if you’re just being argumentative. You’re also not approaching my argument with good faith.

It has nothing to do with us.

I think you will find that the liberal-capitalist world order with some semblance of norms like national self determination and resistance to overt nationalistic annexation does benefit the US.

Note that I’m not saying I like this world order, or the US politic. But your assertion looks false to my eyes. Even if there was no moral issue of enabling Ukrainian self defense because Ukrainian self defense is a moral good, the USA benefits from preventing authoritarian regimes from using military force to swallow up their neighbors. And so do the European countries.

Hey, I don’t agree with you, but I also don’t agree with others here putting words into your mouth. But just like I’m asking others to take a breath, I’m going to ask you the same.

I think you could have been better served here by disengaging instead of escalating. Or maybe, by answering the question posed, and re-starting your view without being argumentative. You’re falling into the trap of generalizing the same way a few of the comments below you did.

I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong in asserting that this is a behavior of the groups you mentioned, but it’s important as far as we can to remember the person. In this specific case I don’t see conclusively that @whelmer@beehaw.org is expressing any of that.

I understand your emotion, but another time, please try to remember to respond to each person like a person. We’re trying to talk to each other here and not take turns stating positions to a crowd. You know? This isn’t a warning or anything like that, but I am asking you to try to avoid generalizing when you’re responding in conversations with specific people. Before we can assume bad faith we do have to actually establish that the specific individual is acting in bad faith. It’s one thing that can help make this community different to reddit.

I’m not falling over myself to clap, but it is still Ukraine’s choice whether to use this or not.

Sounds like it’s time to destabilize the government and overthrow the presidency.

Maybe the Assembly can’t do it, but the people sure could.

? For me it’s right there, not sure what to say.

Too many Rose apologists