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DzikiMarian

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Probably goryllions as your friends nicely put it :-) why are you asking instead providing a number? Whatever I say, somebody will say that this answer is US propaganda, since it will be way to low to support idea that US is baddest of the bad guys.

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I agree with your sentiment, but this thread is about communism. As someone who actually lives in post-communist country I can assure you that net effect is not what you’re looking for.

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Right now my life is significantly better than someone who decides to live on government welfare.

30 something years ago, when we had socialism in my country it didn’t matter if you worked, got drunk or slept at work. Everybody had the same shitty flat and the same shitty products (assuming there were products at all).

This system has a lot of problems, but socialism sucked indefinitely more.

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How is it different from having extra two kilograms of medical equipment in your bag?

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I’ve no problem improving society just for the sake of it, given that everybody else also does. Sadly any bigger group of people will start getting freeloaders and I’m allergic for such BS.

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I guess my grandparents who were “liberated” by Stalin’s army were also paid off by US propaganda?

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Good thing you mentioned nazi Germany, because it’s actually known figure - 17 milion. That’s third place amongst dictatorship countries. Stalin did 23 million, Mao did 74 milion. During colonization actually Belgium was most bloodthirsty with 15 million attributed to Leopold II. From older history Genghis Khan was responsible for about 40 milion.

Recent war on Ukraine is couple hundred thousand in most grave estimates. Afganistan where both US and Russia waged wars lost in total similar number of people. To put things into perspective entire population of Iraq and Afghanistan combined is 83 million.

Then there’s case of native Americans which is very hard to assess ranging between 3 and 100 million. But that happened 100 years before USA was established so you have to decide if you want to associate these with USA or European countries.

Considering as anti US stance as possible - about 300 years of US history may more or less equal to 50 years of reign of Mao(though in reality it’s probably much lower number). So while they definitely have their sins your original statement doesn’t check out from math perspective.

Man that was a few weird paragraphs to write :-/

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EU version has review process built-in. Anyways it’ll be hard to get more outdated than lightning.

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They have to be certified by Mastercard/Visa, so no chance for open source. A few banks have their own implementation. Apart from mentioned samsung has its own version.

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