Which one really did it? We’ll never know

Oh, we will, be reassured that we will find out eventually.

Could the US or China have done this covertly? Yes.

So this is what we find on Lemmy? A russian apologist as top post?

First post and this is what I read. mmmkay “The USA or China could have destroyed this dam covertly”, right… The good old russian strategy of making you doubt everything you read. The goal of the russian propaganda is not to lie, the goal is to make you trust nothing, and specially not journalists.

A quick look at your history and you constantly bash the Ukrainian resistance.

Russia has started an illegal war and is using illegal means. They will pay for this.

“Think critically” you say? So where are your facts? Because thinking critically is all about the facts. You have brushed away all the facts and declared “We will never know”. So where are your facts?

For example the russians had control of the dam, not the ukrainians. It’s just an example. What do you make of it? Come on, show us your “critical thinking”.

I would like to thank Vladimir Putin for runing Russia and dragging Russia into an unwinnable war. Thank you Mr Putin, you have sabotaged Russia better than anyone else could. Your strategy will be mocked in military schools and be taught as “The blunder to not do” for decades.

Russia will lose this war and repay everything to Ukraine even if it takes a hundred years.

The dam sluices were Russian controlled but the dam is on the front line. It easily could have been attacked by either side.

Wrong, you don’t destroy a dam just like that. It takes preparation and a lot of explosives at the right points. This is not a Micahel Bay movies we’re talking about.

Both sides will see flooding but moreso the Russian side because it’s flatter. Breaching the dam will empty the canal providing much-needed water to Crimea. The lower water level upstream could threaten the safety of an offline nuclear plant upriver. I can’t tell which side controls the plant, so I’m not sure who that would affect more.

And Putin doesn’t care about all of that. He has proven it again and again.

I can’t tell which side controls the plant

Russia, They took control of the plant, which is illegal, all nations around the globe know perfectly that no army should take control of a civilian power plant. Every other army is trained to carefully avoid the nuclear power plants. For some reason Russia keeps ignoring the international laws.

But Ukraine could have done it for the reasons stated.

Nonsense, but keep trying

We’re definitely still in the fog of war and it’s ignorant to assume we know all the details.

Textbook Russian propaganda here -> “Nobody knows for sure”… Well, keep telling you that, nobody believes you west of Russia.

The dam was under Russian control and they sabotaged it to slow down the Ukrainian counter offensive. It’s fine, Ukraine knew it was a possibility and they have plans accounting for it.

Seems like you have information about the incident, you should call this number.

Anyone with information about the crash was asked to contact the Highland Park police at (847) 432-7730 or police@cityhpil.com.

Otherwise why do you speak about what you did not see?

So far? Lemmy is filled with Russian shills. I hope we outnumber them soon.

Joining communities is very counter-intuitive. They are spread around and I ended up joining lemmy.ml communities exclusively, from another instance.

We could use much more space for the text, so far the text is way too concentrated in the middle of the screen in a narrow column.

Now on the content I’m rather satisfied. It’s still a bit low in volume and if you compare to reddit it’s really small, but we will catch up soon. We should lower our expectations and start building anew.

Seriously, I’m not from the USA and I’m not supposed to know the names of American senators, MP’s, governors or lawyers, or of who shot who, or who had a panic attack in an airplane, or why people are shouting at each others at a mcdonalds drive-in. Does any american ex-redditor know the name of a single european politician besides Merkel?

The news cycle proposed by reddit is filled with american politics ad nauseam and by ragebait. The european subs of reddit are filled with russian shills. When you add up all of this there is no point into opening reddit for the news.

And because they’re federated, lemmygrad users can comment on anything on lemmy.ml, so that’s where you will see viewpoints come in that you may not agree with in news/politics/economics related threads.

Oh boy, I didn’t think about that. I never thought that lemmy.ml would federate with a cesspool like grad. So yeah, this explains that. That’s why I’m seeing so many shills.

We have enough numbers to build a “de facto” second main instance which would be completely split from grad, should we focus on one instance? What if we tried to start an instance from scratch?

All this fragmentation will reduce the adoption for sure. No one wants to write to a sub filled with 5 people while another is filled with 5k people. We should adopt one new fresh instance and make it our main, and point people coming from reddit to this new instance.