Th4tGuyII

Look, I’m not here for a pointless back and forth where we just call each other wrong over and over again, so I’m making one last comment then I’m leaving it at that.

The interviewer asked him to give an explanation for why people hate Denuvo. The reasons are varied, so no matter what he says, that answer is not going to represent every single gamer.

Yes, his major hypothesis being that the most vocal people about these apparently non-existent issues (their critics) are the pirate community who want game publishers not to use Denuvo’s software, and as such influence non-pirates who don’t see any benefit to using Denuvo (because it adds bloat and messes with their games).

Basically, two different parties are going into online discussions with their own relatively biased goals of changing opinions about Denuvo. […] He’s making the point that pirate groups are the other.

Which is to say that he thinks the ones trying to influence people away from Denuvo, as in those criticising Denuvo for its issues, are pirates.

You grasp that, yet when I say the quiet part out loud that they’re implying all their critics are pirates, you disagree with me.

Nowhere in that paragraph that I quoted did I see anything even implying “All gamers are X”

And nowhere in my post did I imply he meant all gamers were pirates. I said he believes their critics are salty pirates, as to dismiss those in the gaming community whoare vocal about thinking Denuvo hurts their games.

Lastly, what did you even mean about burning a bridge?

This whole article is about Denuvo attempting to win back over the gaming community, so them turning around and effectively labeling the most vocal in the community as pirates is (in a phrase) burning the bridge with thr gamimg community they’re claiming to be trying to fix.

Clearly we disagree on the interpretation of what this guy said, and I doubt any comment I could make would sway yo on that front, but I don’t think it’s a very hard conclusion to draw based on his own words.

RPS: Why do you think Denuvo has garnered such a poor reputation?

Andreas Ullmann: I think two main reasons. First, our solution simply works. Pirates cannot play games which are using our solution over quite long time periods, usually until the publisher decides to patch out our solution. So there is a huge community, a lot of people on this planet who are not able to play their favorite video games, because they are not willing to pay for them, and therefore they have a lot of time to spend in communities and share their view and try to blame Denuvo for a lot of things - trying to make the gaming publishers to not use our solutions so they can start playing pirate copies of games for free again.

Yeah, people don’t talk like what you said, but they do make implications, like he did exactly here. He isn’t directly stating all their critics are just salty pirates, but he sure as shit is implying it.

He goes on to say about the plight of gamers, but stating this first and foremost makes it very clear what he thinks.

Logic-wise, this whole article is about their “attempt” to reconcile with the gaming community - so while I also don’t get the logic behind burning the bridge while claiming to be trying to fix it, that is what they’re doing.

1 - Those age restrictions work about as well as a gate with no fence

2 - Teaching kids about the dangers of social media and introducing them properly, rather than expecting them to simply abstain because the law says so (a historically very effective technique /s), would be a whole lot more productive.

Denuvo has the reputation it has for a reason, and labeling their critics (most of the gaming community) as salty pirates is not going to help them any.

When it comes to performance claims, why on Earth would I believe the salespeople for Denuvo over the people forced to play with it? The former has every inventive to quash any and all claims of causing performance issues.

Tell you what, I sure love knowing that more than 50% of our population apparently can’t see consequences past their noses.

Like expats living in continental Europe using Schengen Rules that voted for Brexit being surprised they had to leave afterwards. Like come on, how can one be that misinformed as to not see that coming??

The pandemic accelerated the outcome, but everything that’s happening with the economy now is what the remain camp said was gonna happen with Brexit.

Going back into the EU now isn’t gonna go down how many Brits think it will, cause we sure as shit won’t get any sweetheart deals - we’ll have to play by the EU rulebook.

Exactly. Labeling their critics as salty pirates and dismissing them out of hand shows how disingenuous they are…

Though that’s to be expected considering they cherrypicked the hell out of the study they were referencing, then criticised it because the authors dared to suggest that Denuvo was only important for the first couple of months of a game’s lifespan

Calling all their critics salty pirates is one surefire way to pit people against you real quick - especially when you’re already pretty reviled by the gaming community

Who genuinely thought they would release annually. Valve won’t even release games until they find a good reason to, never mind making a new console

Well I think I can confidently speak for all “meat and potatoes” men when I say that not only would this not change my mind, I think I’d never be able to look at a prune in the same way again after eating this

Didn’t know I needed History Showerthoughts, yet here we are