Unsafe

Misconfiguration is possible in any software. It’s not specific to sysvinit or systemd-init. Selinux was created to solve this.

I deleted it. No need for two almost identical posts to exist.

the added difficulties of making it system agnostic did not compensated for the low user base

• 2003: Udev was launched, providing support for musl, non-systemd distros, and others.
• 2004: NetworkManager was launched, with Udev as a crucial dependency.
• 2006: Dbus was created without dependencies on distro-specific packages.
• 2009: Dbus becomes a dependency for NetworkManager.
• 2010: Red Hat introduces systemd, with core components including logind, journald, and timers.
• 2012: Developers made udev less compatible with old kernels, musl-based, and non-systemd Linux distros by merging it with systemd. You can find more information about this here: https://lwn.net/Articles/490413, https://lwn.net/Articles/529314/
• 2017: PipeWire was launched, with logind as a dependency.
• 2017: Reimplementations of the bus protocol called dbus-broker were launched. Its compatibility launcher requires systemd.
• 2020: After systemd had already been adopted by all major distros, systemd-tmpfiles gained the ability to be built as a standalone executable.
• 2022: WirePlumber was launched, with pipewire as a hard dependency.

Looks like Red Hat makes everything they can systemd-dependent. Including Gnome.

Compare it to vulnerabilities found in SysVinit, which was as common as systemd-init is now. There were no similar bugs, that would allow crashing an entire system just by executing a single command.

There is an example: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet

We know.

Really? Didn’t known. Lemmy.today seems to not work properly on mobile apps.

The thing is that it can work. Which shown by eudev. Looks like it’s important for Red Hat to make everyone dependent on SystemD suit.

It’s a matter of probability. Probability of discovering vulnerabilities in multiple tools doing same thing is higher than in just one.

See the answer on your logind statement.