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Thou shalt spell the word “Pheonix” P-H-E-O-N-I-X, not P-H-O-E-N-I-X, regardless of what the Oxford English Dictionary tells you.

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When I was reading it as a lad I always thought it was a parody of American culture, policy and law enforcement. A true sci-fi western. Substitute Judge for Marshall, guns with the right bullets solve everything and really long sentences or death fix all the problems of the society.

The joke being that Dredd never ever has any real impact on the society.

Oh and Tharg’s Future Shocks did it way before and better than Black Mirror!

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Yes but that might not matter. It may only be sticking because the fibers are wrapped tight around the plastic part and the screw creating a lock through that tension. Cut through all the fibers wrapping round the screw and plastic part half way across. So there are fibers running in the gap and out both sides. Then start pulling at them with pliers. Some should come out. They must be able to move within that join or it would have jammed up as soon as the fibers started to enter. Rather than wrapping them round and round and then stopping.

Also unless you know exactly which plastic that ring is made from don’t try chemicals on it. As you’ve no idea of the damage it might do to it.

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The front wheel is correct but I would move the D lock at the back. It is only round a wheel and a mudguard.

Your current method means the frame could be stolen by undoing the wheel bolts and lifting away. Can’t see exactly how the mudguards are fixed and they might complicate it a bit but not much.

I’d suggest low on the seat tube just above the chain ring and then loop the cable round the front and back wheels and into the D lock.

Edit: forgot. Don’t bother looping up through the seat like that. If they want to steal that with the cable there it’s only two bolts. It’s only one without the cable but if you were still worried you can get security seatpost bolts

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Should have said, unbolt and damage the wheels then lift away.

Which could be done with a spanner and by standing on the back wheel to squash it to an oval and push it through.

So then you’re buying a hardened D lock and making it as strong as an aluminium and rubber wheel. If they have very basic cutters they are through both wheels in seconds and can lift the bike away. Leaving the lock intact on the bar.

No point in having a hardened lock if it is going to be used like this. Just buy a bargain basement long cable lock as all the benefits of the hardened D are being removed.

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Never seen anyone actually doing it but have seen the results. If they are serious bike thieves they will take as much as they can as quickly as they can.

They’ll make a quick assessment. I can get all of a bike apart from the wheels quickly with very little noise vs spending the time dealing with the hardened lock. They will go for the quicker and quieter option.

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Why would it be fantastically difficult? Wheels aren’t that strong.

The hardened lock actually helps the thieves to damage the wheel. All they need to do is find a way to get the lock to distort the wheel a little bit. E.g by standing on the lock or pulling the bike away from the rail. All the force is going through that part of the wheel.

Once they’ve distorted they can just stand on the wheel to crush it.

It certainly isn’t fully secure if they could steal all of the bike apart from the wheels with only a spanner.

Also saying they’d only end up with a partial bike shows you don’t understand bike theft at all. They will take as much as they can as quickly and easily as they can. If you give them 75% of a bike without having to deal with the hardened lock they will take that opportunity. If it’s the most attractive one there. The goal is to make the time and noise of getting anything from your bike as unappealing as possible.

Although if they target it to no bike is fully secure. I’ve seen the bike rail cut, D locks in pieces and most bizarrely a frame and two wheels left attached to a rack with every other bolt and component removed from the bike. That was totally baffling because the tools and time needed to do that seemed enormous to do insitu.

Next time I see a crushed wheel attached to a post I’ll take a picture.

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Yep this is how to do it.

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You seem to be a bit confused. You say most bike theft is opportunistic. Securing through the wheel only decreases the tools and effort needed to get something of value. Increasing the chance of opportunistic theft.

Never said it was easier than an angle grinder to the lock. That requires tools and a lot more noise. If they are going to do that they will, but put the thieves in the situation where they have to make as much noise and do as much work as possible.

If they can just trash a wheel and make off with most of a bike quickly and with little noise that suits the opportunistic thief more than anyone else.

If they have an angle grinder and are going to attack the D lock with it. Then it almost doesn’t matter what you do. They will get the bike. All you can do is make it a harder and less appealing target than the next bike they see.

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