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Based on this statement it looks like they were compelled by the courts:

In this case, Proton received a legally binding order from Swiss authorities which we are obligated to comply with. There was no possibility to appeal this particular request.

They also provided an update:

In October 2021, Proton won a Swiss court ruling that email services are not telecommunications providers. Consequently, email services are not subject to the data retention requirements imposed on telecommunications providers and are exempted from handing over certain user data in response to Swiss legal orders.

So it sounds like they had their hand forced in that instance to provide the data and got a court ruling that allows them in the future to not retain that data. I would trust them.

Which is dumb because like no one I know is interested in setting up a social/legal/economic Caste system in which “White People” are at the bottom. At best we got “don’t let white dudes vote for a decade”, mostly since they voted so hard for so long maybe it would be good for them to take a break. Go paint, write shit poetry, or frolic in the forest. IDC just fuck off for a bit while the rest of us put the world back together.(Angry Latino man rant)

I agree to an extent. I think governments or more accurately the civil servants in government are taking it seriously. I work with a local Doughnut Economics group and 2 years ago we couldn’t even get the time of day, now the amount of calls and emails we have gotten from state, city & county officials is amazing. They want to take it seriously its just they don’t know how. However in my experience I think they are starting to adequately freak out now, they are just keeping a straight face because “don’t want the public to panic”.

Oh yeah in so many ways its a too little too late. The best time to have fixed this problem was 40 years ago, the second best time is now. Nothing will be perfect, and we are definitely going to get so many things wrong. All I am saying is that there is some hope for something better, just gotta keep focusing on that and try hard to not fall down the rabbit hole of existential dread.

As a born/raised/living Californian I can attest to the fact that its not California that is the problem. But as my ancestors would say it’s “El Pinche Gringo’s” that tend to be the problem.

On what exactly? Also where do you store it? Like I am all for government activity to collectively stockpile and supply materials but what materials and for what purpose? Also should it be a federal project/state project/both? IDK sometimes its just easier to use price controls then it is to handle logistics.

There is not much anyone can do TBH. Too much of the social/political/monetary systems we currently live in have exponential growth baked into their values. It’s incredibly hard to turn that around. Now there is work being done on building a different economic system but its anyone’s guess if the current system will bend itself into that direction or it just breaks and the new system fills the void. But either way capitalism is dying and there is no hope of saving it.

I agree the money is going to come from the monetary supply and government acting as buyer and distributor of goods would be incredibly problematic. A subsidy of some kind for domestic production + placing a max profit markup IMO would be a more effective method.

The land barons of CA are no joke. They are a problem that we are going to have to deal with one way or another.