Firefox spokesperson Christopher Hilton tells The Verge that the browser has seen a more than 50 percent jump in users in Germany and a nearly 30 percent increase in France.

Brave saw a similar increase in users after Apple started letting users choose their default browsers on iOS 17.4 in the EU last week.

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Aren’t they all still WebKit under the hood though? Until they allow other web engines this is still just the illusion of choice.

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I believe part of the DMA means that they’re allowed to use their own engines. Whether they have that ready right now I’m not sure, but I’m sure it’s in the works.

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I thought Firefox said that they were going to have to write two different browsers so they weren’t going to.

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They are still exploring options. They’ve told the press that all the iOS gecko work is still being researched.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/07/mozilla_google_apple_webkit/

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Why would they? They already have a Mac build, I can’t imagine it’d be that huge of a difference, but maybe iOS is a lot more different than I realize.

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Browsers can now run their own rendering engines, which are sandboxed at the app level.

System-level HTML, like web apps on the home screen, are still using WebKit.

Which is how it should have been from the start.

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So are we allowed to use all extensions on Firefox? Is it same as Firefox on Andriod?

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Mozilla would have to update the iOS app to both run their engine and accept their plugins.

But it will never be like the Android app because the iOS app will still be sandboxed and not allowed to run code outside of itself.

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Yes they can but for now they are all still using WebKit.

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Apple does allow other engines in Europe. Wether or not FireFox chooses to create one remains to be seen.

There’s nothing wrong with WebKit, so not much incentive for FireFox to do all that work.

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There’s nothing wrong with WebKit

Weeeeeeelllll… actually yes, because Chrome is based on an ancient WebKit version, and Firefox is the only independent remaining browser.

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Aren’t they all KHTML under the hood? Yes, they are. Except firefox.

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You could already run Webkit Firefox on iOS - I have for years - it’s how I keep tabs synced between devices

I’m pretty sure this is Firefox with Gecko (is gecko still the engine? My memory ain’t workin too great right now).

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iOS shows a dialog for choosing a browser option in the EU now. Nothing to do with engines.

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Firefox uses Gecko and someday, it will use Servo. Brave uses Blink, which is Google’s WebKit fork.

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*on desktop

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