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Mods are not always improvements, but they are always using someone else’s work for free.

If no one is asking you to improve upon other people’s work you have no legal right to do so.

I also agree that they shouldn’t be using the modder’s work without compensation.

I support modding, just be real about it.

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“Be real” how? I’m legit confused what point you are making. “Using someone’s work for free” doesn’t mean the same as “taking someone’s work and selling it as your own.” When you buy a shirt, you can put your own art on it, but if the shirt company uses your design without credit or consent to sell more shirts, that’s a bit sketchy, no?

I’m gonna “be real” with you, it doesn’t sound like you support modding at all

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Incredible analogy, makes things very clear

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they are always using someone else’s work for free.

Explain this insanity

You think someone should have to pay to modify the files of a game on their hard drive?

Actually let’s back up. What do you think “modding” means?

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Nope. I know that the modders didn’t do the original work, that’s why it’s called modding.

Most companies don’t support this practice.

Yes, you can do whatever you want with files on your hard drive, but you’re still modding someone else’s work.

That’s all I’m saying. Everyone is griping that the company used the modder’s work without permission, when the modder did the exact same thing: using someone else’s work without permission.

I’m not saying modding is morally wrong - I’m something of a mod enjoyer myself XD - and I agree it’s a dick move to swipe a modder’s work, but I doubt there’s a legal leg to stand on when their work is based on an IP they don’t own.

I do also understand the difference between small modders doing something for fun based on something they love instead of money and a company swiping someone’s work for profit.

But it’s right there in the name. Modding. What are you modding? Someone else’s work.

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Nope. I know that the modders didn’t do the original work, that’s why it’s called modding.

But there is no claim to the original work. They only claim to have made what they made.

And, more importantly, they only release what they made.

This is why I asked you what you think modding is. Because modding is not “releasing a modified game”. Modding is releasing a modification to a game. This is a fundamental difference you do not seem to understand.

Most companies don’t support this practice.

[citation needed]

[definition of ‘support’ needed]

Those that literally don’t support mods, as in, block the possibility and disavow it publicly, do so because they make the same mistake you do: thinking that modders release modified games.

Yes, you can do whatever you want with files on your hard drive, but you’re still modding someone else’s work.

Yes. So?

That’s all I’m saying. Everyone is griping that the company used the modder’s work without permission, when the modder did the exact same thing: using someone else’s work without permission.

They did not do the exact same thing. If modders “did the exact same thing”, that would mean releasing the games with their modifications.

But they don’t do that.

They only release their mods. Which can only be enjoyed with an actual copy of the game. Which, I will remind you - the modders do not provide.

I’m not saying modding is morally wrong

You’re certainly implying it.

I’m something of a mod enjoyer myself XD

Then you really should understand that modders don’t release modified games.

and I agree it’s a dick move to swipe a modder’s work, but I doubt there’s a legal leg to stand on when their work is based on an IP they don’t own.

That really depends on the mod. A mod extending animation capabilities is not based on anyone else’s work but their own. This type of work is generally game agnostic, but is tailored to fit the game for that implementation.

The vast majority of modding is actual game development work that has been tailored to extend an existing game.

I do also understand the difference between small modders doing something for fun based on something they love instead of money and a company swiping someone’s work for profit.

You don’t demonstrate any understanding of this fact whatsoever.

But it’s right there in the name. Modding. What are you modding? Someone else’s work.

Yes. Modding. Not flipping - which is what you’re accusing them of.

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you have no legal right to do so

That’s up for a judge to decide.

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It doesn’t even need to come to that - it is plain as day your legal right to modify files on your computer

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True

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GTFO, child.

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you have no legal right to do so

I support modding

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