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-37 points

I mean… the US is likely to stop being a viable guarantor of safety to Europe, Russia is very belligerent, so it looks like we might need more preparation as a continent…

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35 points

Or you could just stops antagonizing Russia.

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-34 points

Or Russia could not invade other nations?

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15 points

maybe stop poking the bear? Actions have consequences you know

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25 points
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Jesus Christ how do liberals even manage to crawl their way here…

Here we go again.

They had fucking Neo-nazis right at their doorstep shelling the Eastern portion of their country (who’s comprised of mostly Ethnic Russians) and a terrorist geopolitical group (NATO) was arming them. This whole conflict was fabricated by the West and the Ukronazi regime that took power back in 2014 with Western influence to destabilize and further weaken Russia because, guess what, Imperialists loved Russia in the 90s and due to the nature of the parasitic system that is Capitalism, they need Russia to become a subservient state.

Overall this whole war that started in 2014 btw had 3 objectives (imo):

  • Deindustrialize Europe: Make them more dependent from the US [success]
  • Isolate and weaken Russia [FAILED]
  • Turn Ukrainians against Russians and increase US influence across Europe [success]

Also, a few days ago I posted another comment (probably more detailed than this one) answering this exact question (not even a question, just bad faith):

It’s a completely different situation. Ever since 2014, after the western-backed Euromaidan protests, Ukronazis (bunch of nazi battalions that have permission from the government to run wild) have been shelling Eastern Ukraine, killing MANY innocent civilians in the process. What Ukraine did (and is still doing to this day) can be considered genocide, since it systematically targets Eastern Ukrainians, who mostly speak Russian and tend to identify more with Russia.

Crimea held a referendum back in 2014 and most Crimean citizens voted to join Russia and the same also happened in the DPR and LPR in 2022. Guess what? The west’s excuse is that both referendums were rigged (they weren’t).

Oh, and remember how NATO broke their promise of not expanding eastward after the dissolution of the Socialist Bloc? Do you also remember how Ukraine constantly broke the Minsk agreements and how many times Russia tried to warn the west and Ukraine? By all means, this war is tragic and my heart goes to innocents who lost their lives, but it was predicted by many a long time ago.

Palestine was occupied by a settler-colonial state called Israel, the only democracy (aka US puppet regime) in the Middle East, that has slaughtered countless people and is now waging genocide against the Palestinians. It’s an ethnostate with policies that make it possible to dub it the modern Nazi Germany.

The situations are completely different. You’re looking at things from an idealistic point of view.

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18 points

You peoples must be allergic to geopolitics or something.

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26 points

Imagine someone coming from a presumably NATO European country saying this. There’s no other words to say to you- until you can recognize not only your glaring hypocrisy, but that your countries are the cause of this war and most across the world, you’re a lost cause.

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The US had Ukraine prodding Russia for 8 years until Russia intervened. Had shit like in Ukraine 2014 happened in Canada, the US would have invaded the next day. Why do I assume this? Because the US was willing to start a nuclear war over soviet bases on Cuba. And to this day inhumanely sanctions cuba and sabotages the country. The end of the Cuban missle crisis was celebrated by the USA with its sponsored terrorists blowing up a cuban factory, killing 200 people.

Russia: Accepted the expansion of NATO despite promises to the opposite by the USA. Did not intervene in the brutal military actions of Urkaine against Donbas for 8 years, despite being asked to by Donbas and all opposition parties in Russia. Putin had to fucking apologize for not intervening far sooner.

Some of us do not have the memory of a goldfish and actually followed the development of the situations for years. Maybe fucking listen for once. Reality is the exact opposite of what you believe it is.

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29 points

Russia is very belligerent

Man the levels of Westoid projection are off the chart again today…

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24 points

What safety? De industrialization and subservience? With terrorism on the rise? Yeah, sure thing man

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11 points

This isn’t r/europe buddy, your “we need to civilise the savages” white man’s burden bullshit won’t fly around here. Go back to reddit if you want applause for being a white supremacist shithead.

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18 points

Its so unfortunate that so many people, like yourself, have not been paying attention to Ukraine in the last decades.

With Russia finally having reacted violently, our war propagandists are having a field day with your brains.

Chances are you already are immune to historic fact and prefer some Neocon giving you their speculation on a foreign leaders psyche instead.

It was in fact the US-centered, imperial power structure which tried its hardest to make peace impossible.

On the off chance that you can still tell information from garbage read some influential imperial strategists from 2019 for an introduction:

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

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