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I kind of feel like a lot of folks here might be focusing on the wrong thing. If you’re upset with the DNC leadership, etc, then it’s not even a question of turnout for the presidential election. The only way to change the party is voting at a local level. That’s the long-term view. Vote on the people you want to see as leaders locally, and support them as they move up the chain.

Is this easy/fast? Hell no. A major frustration I have at all levels — local, state, and federal — is how Democrats seem to refuse to build a bench and stick to incumbents because of a multitude of reasons people have already expressed here. But that’s the only way to start, and it’s a hell of a better reason than “stop the GOP.”

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100% this.

The Republicans have made it a point that there will be NO ticket where a democrat runs unopposed. They knew local laws would help. Hell, right now you can’t get a head of a library fight going without the republicans turning it into an outright vicious fight. They want to control all levels of government and are willing to do it. I was pissed during the election on Hillary on “Well, she’s not good enough” while not paying attention that they were aiming at the Supreme Court.

When it’s said “Go out and vote” it isn’t meant every 4 years when the presidential fight is up. It’s that daily grind over stupid petty laws that they chip away on in the cities, counties, etc that you need to be able to show up. The Republicans, and if you consider them separate the far right absolutely get this. I am shocked by the lefts inability to comprehend it.

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“Just vote local” I’m from the Rio Grande Valley and saw firsthand that the national party will openly support an anti-choice pro-gun candidate if the alternative is a progressive. They would rather women lose rights and children be murdered in school than the nightmare scenario of a candidate who might one day consider voting to raise the minimum wage. When the party quits pulling shit like that, I’ll quit pointing it out.

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Same in Pittsburgh. The DNC backed the incumbent who was so conservative he ran on the Republican ticket when he was successfully primaried off the Democratic ticket by a progressive. The progressive won the general election too, but the DNC sure want happy about it.

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The DNC doesn’t have any involvement in local candidates, they’re only concerned about the presidency. You probably mean the DCCC if you’re talking about a house rep. DNC is not short for the Democratic party, it’s a specific committee.

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I have every right to be mad as hell when my party opposes progressives harder than it opposes republicans. I already vote for democrats. I’m a good little hostage to the lesser evil. You don’t have to gloat that I’ll never have a real choice in the matter.

EDIT: I needed to bold that because centrists kept missing it their rush to be condescending.

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That was tried with Bernie. And they put their thumb on the scale.

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I’m kind of at the opposite end of the experience. We usually have one guy in each of the blue column items, totally unopposed locally.

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That district is somewhat rural in West Texas right?

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Yeah, even fighting locally can be really frustrating, and I live in a supposedly extremely progressive area. It can be even more frustrating when people will be all, “I’m not conservative, I voted for Obama/Clinton/Biden!” as if that means anything. Still, it heartens me to find like-minded people out there fighting the endless fight, because they are out there.

I don’t blame people for moving to a different party, since they almost always vote for the Democrat anyway if there’s even a chance that that seat is in danger. I personally believe in making change from inside the party, but to be entirely honest I’m pretty burnt out and am taking an indefinite break. :\

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Problem with local level stuff is that being a politician is a full time job for part-time pay. So who could possibly take off all that time from work and take the financial hit? Two groups: Retired people and Rich people. The two groups that are out of touch with the common working person.

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Retired oldsters are the worst. My Father in law has been planning this big thing for his 50th wedding anniversary and only on monday did he come to the realization that having it on a thursday (today) instead of saturday would mean people needed to take a day off to attend a 9 am breakfast followed by more.

Oh and he asked if I’d had a chance to check the tie rods on his motorhome yet, he asked last night after dark, and seemed upset that I hadn’t instantly put his whims to the top of my list of shit to do.

I’m picking on him here but all that retired generation are like this in my experience. To call them out of touch with with the common working person is a MASSIVE understatement.

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