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The Monty Python films.

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They recently tried to censor the Loretta scene.

This was actually a big factor for me in “leaving the ‘Left’” - i.e. remembering back when it was the religious establishment trying to censor the films (and succeeding in many countries). And now it’s happening all over again but by the new “woke” establishment and LGBTQIA2S+ movement.

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Hate to break it to you, but if complaints about one movie scene was all it took to get you to “leave” the left, then you were never really on the left to begin with.

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It’s not just that though, but the general shift to identity politics - even in Britain you’ll see “leftist” groups doing things like silencing “white males” etc.

And also in many cases their proposals focus too much on the symptoms and/or end up with worse consequences, which is exactly what Marx was against. Like decriminalising theft below 300 euros which is common in many places now, but just leads to organised gangs exploiting it (just like lesser / no sentencing for teenagers, etc.). Likewise for pushing for rent control which usually just results in great unfairness in who is lucky enough to get the rent controlled properties - and then pass them down in their family, so you end up with unlucky working people paying far more in rent than much wealthier lucky families and pensioners.

I still usually vote for the centre-Left just due to being anti-religion and republican (anti-monarchy). But I wish there were more sensible economic and justice options too - like supporting the working class by shifting the tax burden to property owners and the wealthy (and taxing unproductive economic activity) over income and VAT, supporting the free market except for natural monopolies, etc.

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Do you have any more info on that? I know a couple of trans people. They found that scene hilarious. It sounds like the sort of false flag complaint that come out of the far right quite often.

Unlike the right, the left does not aim to be monolithic. There are a variety of views on many topics, and how to fix them. There are idiots across the spectrum though, and all groups need to police them, to some extent.

I’m quite surprised it made you shift to the right. The right have been doing FAR more censorship, and that is backed by the leadership, to the point is being pushed into law.

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https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/john-cleese-has-no-intention-of-removing-controversial-monty-python-scene/

I never said I shifted to the right, I just don’t really take part in politics and usually vote for more centrist options on specific issues. I agree the right-wing are worse, here in Europe they’re mostly extreme Catholics and royalists to start!

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Who’s “they”?

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