I’m sure this whole article comes as a shock to nobody, but it’s nice to see it recognised like this.

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“Capture”. Did no one study the bourgeois revolutions of the 17th and 18th centuries?

The capitalist class revolted against the aristocracy and built new systems of government to benefit them. That is the origin of the modern state and capitalism.

The state as we know it has always been just a tool of the capitalist class to control all other classes. That’s what the state is, a tool of class control.

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I’m from the UK. We still have a monarch and an aristocracy, as well as a capitalist class. Even worse: they interbreed.

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You’re from the UK and you don’t know about the English Revolution…? Where a constitutional monarchy was instituted, and the capitalists came into power?

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It was far more of a religious war than anything else. You had aristocracy and rich capitalists on both sides. More so, the birth of nationwide capitalism had already taken place in the UK and joint venture stock companies were around long before the civil war too.

But catholic and protestant was a line you could always 100% accurately draw between the two sides. In fact, the only thing that really changed was that the monarch having to be church of England was made into law. The rest of British history makes infinitely more sense when the civil war is looked at through that lense.

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You talking about Cromwell or William and Mary?

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Forgive my ignorance, but which event of the 17th century would you classify as a burgeois revolution? Late 18th century of course, even many during the 19th century, but i just can’t remember any such event from the 1600s

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The first one, the English Revolution from around the 1640s to the 1660s?

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That’s an edge case, but if you’d count those parliamentary nobles as burgoise then that’s fair. Thanks

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