It's all coming up tollhouse(aussie.zone)

posted 1 year ago

𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zone

brisbane@aussie.zone

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Stolen from my favourite Facebook group (warning: not really safe for work).

Literally my thoughts as I try to navigate around Brisbane. A trip from the west to the airport can involve up to half a dozen tolls if you do it wrong.

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FuckFashMods@kbin.social

4 points

1 year ago

Tolls are good actually

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rumckle@lemmy.world

8 points

1 year ago

Only works when there are decent alternatives, other wise it is just taking money from commuters (and in the case of my city giving it to private corporations).

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𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneOP

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1 year ago

Explain.

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FuckFashMods@kbin.social

3 points

1 year ago

People should pay for their roads. “Free” driving leads to a tragedy of the commons, and inefficient road system.

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BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone

5 points

1 year ago

But we do though, with rego and fuel taxes and the like - sorry, I’m just confused and trying to clarify atm, were you suggesting we don’t at the moment?

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zik@aussie.zone

4 points

1 year ago

Rego doesn’t even begin to cover the cost of roads. Nearly all the cost comes from general tax revenue.

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Fluid@aussie.zone

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1 year ago

Citation?

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zik@aussie.zone

3 points

1 year ago

It’s easy to work it out yourself.

Road funding is 8.3 billion from councils per year plus 5.6 billion (federal maintenance) +15 billion (federal projects) plus whatever the states spend. Plus there are other parts of road funding that come from other budgets but it’s well over 30 billion all up. The number of registered cars in Australia is 21 million. So over $1500 per car per year for road expenditure.

Rego (excluding the insurance component which doesn’t go towards roads) is about $200 depending on the state. So the rest is coming from general revenue.

Note that they never claimed rego paid for all the road costs. It’s just something that’s commonly assumed.

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1 year ago

Yeah registration and fuel tax certainly covered a majority of it. This site has a breakdown and even with some of the dubious categories it’s definitely still a significant portion. I suspect this also includes local roads which doesn’t really make sense because you need them regardless of whether you have a car or not.

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