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Are there advocates telling people it’s okay and healthy to smoke? Oh, it’s universally shit on with more laws every day on who can smoke?

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We really ought to be passing laws to combat obesity, like adding a tax on unhealthy food and making walking and biking more attractive transportation options.

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Or you could mind your own business and let those people pay for their additional health care costs. But that’s not going to gain any traction.

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Well, but even in the capitalist hellscape of America where we get blatantly overcharged for healthcare, we still largely use a mix of private and public insurance. Even if I didn’t care about other people or want them to have long and healthy lives for its own sake, I would still want want them to be healthy because my insurance rate is tied to the overall cost of healthcare, which is higher thanks to people being unhealthy. This is an insane way of thinking, and I want everyone to be healthy for the intrinsic benefits, but even if I were to be completely selfish, well, they’re costing me money.

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You actually bring up an interesting point.

Their health care costs are our healthcare costs. The way insurance works, healthy people subsidize unhealthy people’s healthcare.

Additionally, many hospitals around America are finding that they have to buy specialized, expensive equipment just to transport and handle bariatric folks. In a few locales, they’re charging folks that need this specialized equipment more, but my guess is in many others the cost is once again subsidized by the general population.

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