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Torvalds just really dislikes C++. He’s gone on the record saying that he thinks it’s just not a good language. In his own words “C++ is just a waste, there is no design at all, just adding some scum on top of C.”

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55 points

he’s not wrong

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In the specific use case of kernel programming, maybe. But the Standard Template Library is awesome.

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they dumped everything in the languaga, at least samething they needed to have right, it’s otherwise statistically impossible

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The STD is maybe the only good thing C++ has over C, and even that is awful compared to other language’s standard libraries.

I can’t name another good thing C++ has. Maybe templates. C++’s reliance on inheritance for polymorphism is awful (should’ve gone with interfaces/traits).

Not to mention the mess with all the different types of constructors that must always be implemented.

It’s just a bunch of bad design choices added on top of an old outdated language.

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Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with.

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I would have agreed with that before C++11. But since then, C++ has improved a lot. Its like the vision of what C++ suddenly became more clear. So I wonder if Linus would still say that today. (Unfortunately, there have been a lot of missteps in the development of C++ though, and so there is a lot of cruft that everyone wishes was not there…)

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