So now I have to open Bluetooth to toggle it on and off instead of a one-click toggle. Real shit "feature upgrade"

I already run Calyx so that part is fine enough but the fairphone stupidly removed their headphone jack so that’s why it’s not on my list for a replacement anytime soon.

Thank you for the suggestion though.

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Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP

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5 months ago

I’m on the opposite side here, I haven’t used wired headphones in a decade.

Is it the increased fidelity of wired headphones that has you for jack advocacy?

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timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works

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5 months ago

I could plug into any headphones or stereo without a dongle, they never have to be charged, and I’m never forced to choose whether to listen to music or charge the phone itself.

BT is fine. But there’s zero good reason to omit the jack. All the companies just followed apples lead so they could make money on BT headphones. That’s it.

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Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP

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5 months ago

You don’t need a dongle to use bt headphones, do you?

Charging my headphones once every couple of days for 30 minutes vs the inconvenience of constantly dealing with a physical cord(tangles, caught on anything, putting it away, the phone port/headphone cord/jack fraying or breaking) is a no-contest bt win for me. Listening is so much more convenient for me without the wire.

That said, I’m almost always listening to something on the go, so maybe our use cases are different.

“I’m never forced to choose whether to listen to music or charge the phone itself.” - You can’t use bt headphones while charging your phone?

I would omit the port for extra space to organize what I would consider more critical components. Waterproofing is probably a consideration.

Interesting to hear from the other side, thanks

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timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works

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5 months ago

I put the wire down my shirt or coat. Doesn’t get in the way at all.

Never have to charge- that is so important to me because I definitely don’t want anything else to have to charge. I hate smartwatches for the same reason (and because I don’t like wearing watches.)

And lastly, port doesn’t have to be omitted. Xiamoi or whoever had a razor thin phone with a jack- no issues with space. Also, companies had IP68 or whatever ratings with headphone jacks before.

You’re not gonna convince us. We know what we like and we know there is zero reason that the jack can’t be put in. It wouldn’t preclude people like yourself from using BT all the same but would afford us a simple time-worn and battle tested way of listening to music the way we like that clearly has upsides to only having BT available.

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Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP

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5 months ago

Time-worn and battle tested? Jacks and ports break constantly, wires fray constantly.

You say it’s because you like the wires themselves. That’s fine. I like using hand tools, but I don’t pretend that they are more convenient than power tools.

You pretending that pulling constantly degrading wires and components in and out of your clothes multiple times a day is more convenient than a single plug once every couple of days is absurd and obviously incorrect.

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