The DRM removal tool to remove DRM from ebooks was taken down from github and will most likely be taken down from gitlab soon as well. The more archives we have the better so im sharing the gitlab in hopes some Datahoarder types will archive it and keep it shared via torrents etc https://gitlab.com/bipinkrish/DeGourou

Heres an article about why it was taken down https://torrentfreak.com/internet-archive-targets-book-drm-removal-tool-with-dmca-takedown-230714/

Edit: does anyone here use https://radicle.xyz/ ? Its a p2p network built on top of git and could be a good way to host it while still being able to contribute to it besides making a .torrent for archiving

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101 points

Imagine buying books and not being able to do with them what you like

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41 points

Because in circumstances like these and many many other digital stores your are not in fact buying the product, but a license to use the product in a very limited way.

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7 points

btw sometimes drm is used to actually rent out digital books

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40 points

Renting digital items is just stupid

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28 points

Worthwile reading into: Hachette v. Internet Archive.

In short: Even lending only the amount of real copies that you own as digital copies (you own 1 real book, you get to lend 1 digital copy. Not more!) is too much for some greedy bastards and a compromise.

https://www.eff.org/cases/hachette-v-internet-archive

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5 points

agree

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17 points

On the other hand, books from your local library have no drm. :)

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8 points

Ebooks from your local library generally do have drm in my experience. Harder to complain since they’re free though.

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1 point

My local library is 25 miles away and only open 4 days a week, plus it’s about 40 miles away from the city where I do all my shopping so it is really out of the way. There is a different library in the city where I run my errands, but they charge a hefty fee for non-residents.

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-57 points

Imagine spending years writing a book for the benefit of others, only to have it downloaded, stripped of it’s licensing and given away to others for free and being robbed of compensation for the time you invested.

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61 points

Imagine buying a physical book, reading it, and putting it on the bookshelf in your living room, only to have family members and friends borrow it and read it for free.

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-6 points

I imagine your circle of family and friends is a lot smaller then posting it on the web and have people downloading it.

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-22 points

Yes because that’s totally the same as xeroxing someone else’s work and handing it out in the street to anyone who wants it, all day every day.

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47 points

As soon as they stop using DRM to force you into a specific ereader ecosystem, you’ll have an argument.

Until then, I’m going to strip the DRM off of a book I buy on Amazon and read it on my Nook. All other parties involved can fuck all the way off.

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44 points

Those public libraries are ruining it for everybody!

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-26 points

Those public libraries pay to have those books on their shelves 🤦‍♂️

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34 points

Imagine buying a book only to find out that you can’t read it anymore because the store you bought it from decided to remove it from sale and stop all downloads of it. You can’t restore it from a backup because the DRM prevents that.

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28 points

Imagine going on the piracy Lemmy community and preaching the moral wrongs of copying.

Seriously though, DRM is a cancer. I usually pirate my books from LibGen, but I buy them on the Kobo store at the same time to support the author. It’s easy to strip DRM from Kobo and they’re better than Amazon, but I would really prefer not to support a store with DRM in the first place.

Can anyone recommend a DRM-less store? Something akin to GOG for books.

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-28 points

Imagine being so entitled that you think you have a right to others’ work for free.

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24 points

It sounds like you wrote a book for profit then, not for the benefit of others.

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-3 points

It sounds like you’d prefer a world where only well-off people spend the time writing books, since making money from writing is obviously not cool

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-11 points

Yes, most people do.

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-12 points

I’d say every book was written for profit.

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8 points

Imagine selling someone a book and then later clawing it back without a refund and without giving the victim a big fat warning that you’re going to do so.

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-4 points

God that would be awful. Good thing that’s not what we’re talking about.

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6 points

@HughJanus
@cupcakezealot
this is not how compensation for writers works, generally, and also the whole idea is to break a traditional publishing system that exploits writers in favor of one where people directly pay the authors.

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  1. Go on then, tell us how compensation works. Authors don’t get paid when they sell books, is that it?

  2. What’s preventing authors from selling directly?

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5 points

Unless the book is being bought directly from the writer, isn’t it really the publisher who is gaining the rewards? My understanding is that the writer is paid a lumpsum for rights of a book by a publisher.

If the entire motto is “benefit of others”, the writer themselves can publish it for the public to read openly, or make it a collaborative project where their and other people’s contributions are added together.

It’s not black and white, both sides of a piracy debate (much like anything else) have their arguments, and could have had reached a better medium.

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2 points

Sir this isn’t a Wendys

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