cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/14604927

Conservatives Quickly Turn Against “Idiot” Marjorie Taylor Greene

The Georgia Republican is fast falling out of favor for her opposition to the Ukraine aid bill.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene’s failed fight to end aid to Ukraine, and her sort-of-serious crusade against House Speaker Mike Johnson, has cost her the support of right-wing media.

The Sunday front page of the New York Post, owned by the conservative Murdoch family, was the latest outlet to attack Greene, invoking the “Moscow Marjorie” nickname coined by former representative Ken Buck.

Fox News, another arm of the Murdoch media empire, had already taken aim at the Georgia Republican last week, with columnist Liz Peek calling her an “idiot” and saying she needs to “turn all that bombastic self-serving showmanship and drama queen energy on Democrats.” This follows an editorial last month from The Wall Street Journal, also in the Murdoch portfolio, that called Greene “Rep. Mayhem Taylor Greene” and accused her and her allies of being “most interested in TV hits and internet donors.”

Even a non-Murdoch outlet is on the attack, as conservative Las Vegas Review-Journal columnist Debra Saunders demanded to know “who put Marjorie Taylor Greene in charge?”

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I strongly suspect that most Democrats don’t actually want to fund a bunch of forever wars either. I mean, that’s what Obama was elected for, he just turned out to do the opposite of everything he was elected to do. “Help the poor, end the wars, shut down gitmo? I agree but let’s tweak it to help the 0.1%, keep the wars going forever, keep gitmo going!”

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Everyone has said they would shut down Gitmo, and then they do not.

Gitmo served a purpose in the early days of the war and quickly lost that purpose. It should have been shutdown a long time ago.

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I don’t think I agree with you about Gitmo ever serving a purpose. It was entirely outside of Geneva Conventions and served as a secure prison for anyone deemed an enemy of the state, including US citizens. Torture was regularly practiced and there was no oversight; it was an oubliette into which people disappeared for years, with no representation or recourse. Gitmo was everything the US should stand against, when we consider our highest ideals and morals.

The US has plenty of blood on its hands, but Gitmo was out in the open; there was no subtlety, it wasn’t a “dark secret.” The only thing it accomplished was to prove that you can scare the current American public enough that they’ll accept nearly anything, including stuff that would have outraged the WWII US public.

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It was entirely outside of Geneva Conventions

Gitmo had nothing to do with Geneva. It dealt with US law. If we brought them back to our soil, they’d have full protections under the constitution.

Gitmo was supposed to be a stop gap while we figured out what that meant.

I was there for about six months. Obviously can’t get into details but it needs to be shutdown. It’s lived long past its purpose. The things that went on there are a black eye to our country.

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This season of the Serial podcast is about GitMo and it’s very interesting. Would recommend.

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I may have to check that one out.

What disappoints me is both parties have lost interest in closing gitmo

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Well, I don’t know. Democrats are more vocal about it for sure, but that’s just because many of them hate either Jews or Israel. Democrats seem to love Ukraine, and would like to keep funding them, while Republicans seem to not care about them at all.

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I’m making a distinction between the rank and file and the media, I don’t really believe most rank and file are really like whatever the media or the like claim… I mean if they really did flip 180 like that then it makes them incredibly disingenuous people…

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