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TikTok is a massively powerful tool of influence and intelligence, in the hands of an adversary that is well understood to proactively meddle with democratic elections.

Yes, obviously the CCP will unabashedly pursue other interference vectors. That should be viewed as more reason to curtail TikTok, not less.

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You’re missing the point, though. China has sizable stakes in multiple social media and streaming platforms, movie studios, and popular videogame studios (like the makers of Fortnite). But the fact those are all primarily owned by US companies makes it okay (in this context–I know China has stakes in similar businesses around the world, too).

TikTok is a threat to Meta and Co’s dominance and American companies can’t simply buy it out to make it go away or at least make it directly benefit them. Don’t mistake me in saying it isn’t a national security threat. What I’m saying is, if TikTok is a threat, then all of these corporate platforms are a threat. The government should targeting all of them! But they’re not, and the reason seems pretty obvious to me.

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I mean do you think Fortnite has anywhere near the same level of ability to disseminate information or surveil people as TikTok does?

And actually it makes a material difference that ByteDance is based in Beijing, as opposed to just having Chinese investors. Those social platforms, movie studios, etc., being headquartered in the US is exactly what makes it different. Can Chinese firms apply financial pressure to compel them to act against the interests of US citizens? Yes, of course, and they do.

But that’s categorically different than being legally obligated to comply with the CCP, which ByteDance is.

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You’re also missing my original point. The argument that Congress is making is that TikTok is a dire threat to national security because: a) it’s entirelt owned by a Chinese company, b) it is egregiously invasive, spying on its users and logging the data, c) it’s very addictive, and d) it’s algorithms are so effective that it’s capable of mass targeted propaganda distribution that can impact elections, radicalize, etc.

Please, tell me how that is different than YouTube, Facebook, etc. other than the core ownership? We have literal fucking proof that Facebook collaborated with foreign agents in 2016 to influence our elections, for fuck’s sake! And Congress did nothing to them besides a half-assed Q&A session with Zuckerberg and Co! But nope, TikTok is entirely about ethics and a sense of patriotic duty to keep our country safe, not about money and protectionism at all. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there are some politicians who are genuinely trying to protect the US. Some. But the rest couldn’t give a shit if a literal foreign plant was running our country.

And yes, I realize Fortnite and TikTok are different. But it doesn’t take a genius to see a pattern in Tencent buying as much stake as possible in every major trending Western company. It’s pretty obvious that they’re buying influence and power vs caring about just profits, similar to China’s whole silk road or whatever the fuck they call that program that lets poor countries borrow money. TikTok is a drop in the bucket when you consider how beholden we are to China in so many other far more immediately dire areas, e.g. critical medicine and medical supplies, critical technology components, etc etc.

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