A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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nor will the Hamas remain peaceful…

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Considering they’re the only ones offering to lay down arms, I’d say they’re more likely to be peaceful than the IDF and Netanyahu, who are not making such an offer.

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They also justified the terrorist attack on the 7th of october, welcomed the large attack on Israel, are not “ashamed to say that Israel has no place in their land and has to be removed” and “will do it again and again”.

So yeah they may lay their weapons down, but they never remain peaceful.

Source: https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-member-says-repeat-attacks-065643206.html?guccounter=1

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/02/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news#hamas-official-promises-more-attacks-against-israel-similar-to-those-of-oct-7

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Okay? I still only see one side saying they’re willing to lay down arms. “This will end when we get an independent state” vs. “this will end when you’re all dead?” The former seems more reasonable to me. Your mileage may vary.

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If Palestine wasn’t oppressed, no one would be joining Hamas and they would have no power. This is a problem Isreal created for themselves.

I recommend this video, it really shows how what Isreal calls peace is still so oppressive.

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They shouldn’t be ashamed to say it. Israel has no place on their land and should be removed. We aren’t talking about mom and pop tourists but militants that are forcing people out of their homes and killing their children.

What the fuck are you smoking?

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They also justified the terrorist attack on the 7th of october, welcomed the large attack on Israel, are not “ashamed to say that Israel has no place in their land and has to be removed” and “will do it again and again”.

Now do Israel with the same energy.

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It’s pointless arguing this on Lemmy. Everyone here is convinced that the Islamic jihadists are oppressed and just want peace despite what they actually say and do.

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What is it with your constant attempts at whitewashing Hamas? There were four alerts in Israel due to rockets launched from Gaza on that same day.

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He needs it as background for his “Voting for Biden is voting for genocide”-LARPing. In my opinion he’s a rightwinger trying to muddy the waters (as if Trump would do fuck all about Gaza)

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That day was at the start of the ceasefire.

The Hamas rockets were after the ceasefire.

Notice the week in between?

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There was an effective ceasefire before 7th October (apart from the random rockets fired Israel’s way) that was broken pretty badly. Making a ceasefire deal with terrorists that attacked you and took hostages and will never stop attacking you makes no sense.

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Effective ceasefire = israel commits Genocide and nobody fights back?

24 September 2023 - Israeli airstrikes hit Gaza for the 3rd day in a row as West Bank violence intensifies

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