A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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Are you aware that one of the major factors to Ireland independence is terrorism.

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Irish politicians also have a problem with just not saying evil stupid shit on Armenian issues.

Which seems especially weird considering that ASALA had connections with IRA.

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Was their stated goal to wipe the U.K. off the face of the planet so that they could go to paradise?

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Yes, I can easily find IRA leadership talking about mass English genocide from the isle and from the world. Terrorists say some crazy fucked up things in the process of committing violence. But if that’s your standard, I can find Israel leadership talking about genociding palastinians. Except unlike Hamas and the IRA, the Israel leadership actually have the force required to do that genocide.

Point being. Do you think Ireland deserves it’s independence?

See, it feels like I’m asking you a trick question. Like there is no right answer without making you look silly.

It’s not a trick question, you just have conflicting beliefs.

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I don’t think you actually understand jihadism. You think it’s a reaction to other circumstances and some fringe extremists rather than the actual goal and being widely supported. You can’t comprehend that goal so try to frame it in logic. But there is no logic involved in the beliefs of Islam and jihadism.

Yes Ireland deserves independence. Yes Palestine deserves independence. But that would not stop them trying to eradicate non Muslims.

I’m leaving this thread now but I can only suggest you listen to some Sam Harris

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Actually in a way kind of yeah

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