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Does this mean you have to use apt-get to get the deb version again? Or is there an even more complicated command? Iā€™m wondering what happens for the other Ubuntu flavors. Iā€™m usually running Kubuntu.

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It is about installing .deb that you manually downloaded from somewhere. You canā€™t install them by double clicking on them, you have to install from command line.

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You absolutely could in the past.

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24 points

Canonical even patched apt a bit so it prefers to install snaps first.

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3 points

That really pissed me off in 2018

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39 points

Even apt is deliberately broken:

ā€œ[If] You use ā€˜sudo apt install chromiumā€™, you get a Snap package of Chromium instead of Debianā€

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5 points

šŸ¤®

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7 points

Seriously? Wow. That moves the whole thing into asshole territory. Iā€™m glad I went with a distro that prioritizes not being shitty.

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29 points

This was where I rage quit. Who in the hell thought it was a good idea?

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It is a good idea. Imagine you are completely new to Ubuntu and want to install chromium. Youā€™re gonna search on Google how to do that and you will probably find an old article telling you to use APT. If ā€˜sudo apt install chromiumā€™ did not work it would be very frustrating.

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Who in the hell thought it was a good idea?

Marc Shuttleworth

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Same here, itā€™s the reason why I kicked Ubuntu off my laptop. They removed any way to choose and made it such a pain to get around the Snap bullshit. Iā€™m on Linux because I want to choose what I do with my system.

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Canonical

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Why does this break apt? Just because, I assume (I am using Debian btw), it installs a placeholder deb-package which, while running the postinst script, installs chromium via snap commands?

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It doesnā€™t break apt, apt just prefers snaps now.

This is as they designed it.

The issue here is that people donā€™t like this other thing and so the distribution which has been moving towards this other thing for like a decade now I guess is the bad guy for continuing to work towards that goal.

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Same with firefox

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