Sweden is infamous for having some of the highest taxes in the world, and yet the country’s tax agency is still one of Sweden’s most trusted institutions.

The Swedish attitude towards tax contrasts sharply with many countries where taxes can be a deeply divisive issue. We investigate what this says about Swedish society and how the popularity of the welfare state might survive growing challenges in the future.

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It’s because we get so little for those taxes. If we actually had functional services, I would feel like it’s worth it.

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No you don’t. You pay a little and get a little. Go live in a country where you actually pay a lot and get nothing and then you’ll have a case.

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I don’t really care if someone has it worse. We should still strive to do better. I don’t think that’s relevant.

It would be nice to get something for that money. However little or however much it is. Functional services, a social safety net for example. I’d certainly be willing to pay more to have those services. A functioning healthcare system would be nice. I think you would get fewer complaints if the benefits were most obvious.

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Also Sweden’s population is about the size of Los Angeles county. Every time I see Scandinavia held up as something to aspire to folks should remember how small and historically homogenous these countries are.

Comparing the US to the EU as a whole is a much more accurate way to look at things, with us states being akin to eu member countries.

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Why

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There are many different languages spoken in the EU, which alone disqualifies it for any comparison to the US

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I feel reasonably confident that there are just as many languages spoken in just Los Angeles county, if there are any parallels to NYC:

https://untappedcities.com/2019/12/06/fun-maps-nyc-is-most-linguistically-diverse-urban-area-in-the-world/

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We’re losing that in Sweden though. Public healthcare is becoming more and more under funded. Doctors barely have time to treat patients, so they’re often sending patients home with prescribed paracetamol.

The only way to get proper healthcare nowadays is through private healthcare, if you can afford it. I know many who haven’t gotten proper healthcare until they sought private healthcare. It sucks, because it used to be great.

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So, what you’re saying is that you’d want to go to a system akin to what the US has? Hmm.

I mean, I’ll personally take affordable, universal healthcare that needs some tweaking over a system that will bankrupt me if I break my arm or, God forbid, get seriously ill.

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No I’m saying I want to go back to a public healthcare that doesn’t suck.

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And people vote for that shit because politicians dangle tax cuts in front of their faces. It’s really sad to see swedes fall for the lower taxes scam, when our entire thing is built on taxes.

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Naw, the issue is more with corruption creeping into the public system. Swedish society used to have a high degree of trust within the system due to a rather homogenous culture and relatively short social hierarchy, and as such structures of enforcement were rather unneccessary.

It’s become a lot more pressured as time goes on though, inefficiencies, abuse of public funds, straight up corruption which has created huge hole in the public purse - in addition to a sharp rise in organized crime and tax evasion among small businesses such as restaurants and shops.

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Same in Canada, at least Quebec, 50% of my taxes go in health care system, I have no family doctor, all doctors are millionaires, nurses make 100k+, people dies in ER after 48h waiting

Education system is a joke. Teachers earn 100k+ too

Roads are potholes

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Not many physicians make over a million, and the way provincial governments have set up the bureaucracy around healthcare feeds the high wages, ie: it’s not the nurses caring for patients that are making $100k per year.

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About every specialists make 1M

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people dies in ER after 48h waiting

How often does that happen?

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Tbh even once is too often. And it has happened all across Canada.

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“Government doesn’t work, we need less government” said unironically by the person elected to run the government.

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It’s like how they’ve installed that DeJoy person to dismantle the Postal Service from inside out and then complain that the Postal Service is having issues, so we should privatize donate the business to rich people so their disgusting amounts of wealth can trickle down on our faces or something.

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We should stop voting for people who promise to dismantle said services. We also really need to move towards a basic income setup instead of having all of the hoops and paperwork for people to prove they are eligible for whatever it is. In the USA people going on disability are always denied even if they are a paraplegic. We would spend so much less money and other resources if we just made it available to everyone with no proof of eligibility needed.

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It still wouldn’t for the vast number of brainwashed people who don’t think beyond “the government is taking some of my paycheck!”

Because a lot of those people are the same people who say things like, “why should I have to pay for universal health care when I’m healthy?”

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