• Rabbit R1 AI box is actually an Android app in a limited $200 box, running on AOSP without Google Play.
  • Rabbit Inc. is unhappy about details of its tech stack being public, threatening action against unauthorized emulators.
  • AOSP is a logical choice for mobile hardware as it provides essential functionalities without the need for Google Play.
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242 points

It’s so weird how they’re just insisting it isn’t an android app even though people have proven it is. Who do they expect to believe them?

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4 points

They have thought of a specific design for the device using its own interaction modality and created a product that is more than just software.

Therefore don’t get why people refer to it being just an app? Does it make it worth less, because it runs on Android? Many devices, e.g. e-readers are just Android Apps as well. If it works it works.

In this case it doesn’t, so why not focus on that?

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-15 points

my honda is just android software, if thats the only part you look at too.

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17 points

This is more like someone offering a “brand new method of personal travel” to replace your car, but it turns out that it’s just an old Honda with only one seat, a fuel tank that only holds 10L, and a custom navigation app. There’s nothing it does that your Honda can’t do better, and you won’t want to replace your Honda with this.

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4 points

No it’s not. Your Honda has several different computers in it, only on of which is likely to be running Android.

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9 points

Why even try to sell me another device though?

Anything and everything this square does, my phone can do better already and has the added benefit of already being in my pocket and not a pain in the ass to use.

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Because, you know, technological development? Someone has to fund R&D, because it’s not cheap. And in 10 years everyone will have similar ai-enhanced devices. No one thought smartphones will make it back in the days as well. And I’m already looking forward to the time when I don’t have to look down anymore to get information

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2 points

No, they’re not.

An ereader is a piece of hardware that has a distinct purpose that cannot be matched by other hardware (high quality, high contrast, low power draw static content). Some of them do run Android, and that’s a huge value add. But the actual hardware is the reason it exists.

This is just a dogshit Android phone. There is no unique hardware niche it’s filling. It’s an extremely obvious scam that is very obviously massively downgraded in all of value, utility, and performance by being forced onto separate hardware.

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The point being, they are charging 200 bucks for hardware that is superfluous and low end for an incomplete software experience that could be delivered without that on an app. The question is, are you going to give up your smartphone for this new device? Are you going to carry both? Probably not.

“It can do 10% of the shit your phone can do, only slower, on a smaller screen, with its own data connection, and inaccurately because you have to hope that our “AI” is sufficiently advanced to understand a command, take action on that command, and respond in a short amount of time. And that’s not to even speak about the horrible privacy concerns or that it’s a brick without connection!”

Everything about this project seems lackluster at best, other than maybe the aesthetic design from teenage engineering, but even then, their design work seems a bit repetitive. But that may be due to how the company is asking for the work. “We wanna be like Nothing and Playdate!!” “I gotchu fam!”

To address your point about e-readers, they have specific use cases. Long battery lives, large, efficient e-ink displays, and the convenience of having all your books, or a large subset, available to you offline! But when those things aren’t a concern, yea, an app will do.

Like with most contemporary product launches, I simply find myself asking, “Who is this for?”

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-9 points

It’s an experimental device and by buying it you invest into r&d. It’s not meant to replace a smartphone as of now, but similar ones eventually will.

My point stands, because they are offering a completely new (but obv lacking) experience with novel design solutions. What they made is a toy, which is not really unusual for teenage engineering. But if they do as they did with other devices in the past this thing might actually rock in the future. They are not inexperienced and usually over super long support for their devices.

TE is way older than Nothing and Playdate btw…

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3 points

I mean I have an eReader but most of the time I’m too lazy to go find it and my Kindle app works just fine. I am eyeing those eink phones though…

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3 points

They’ve said they are working on integration with other apps, and have said the ultimate goal is the AI could create its own interface for any app. I dunno if that’s gonna happen but if it did it would be closer to an actual assistant, imagine “rabbit, log onto my work schedule app and check my vacation hours” or “rabbit, compare prices for a SanDisk 256 gig memory card on Amazon, eBay, and Newegg”.

More than likely it’ll just fuck it all up but that’s the dream I think.

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134 points

The same question was asked a million times during the crypto boom. “They’re insisting that [some-crypto-project] is a safe passive income when people have proven that it’s a ponzi scheme. Who do they expect to believe them?” And the answer is, zealots who made crypto (or in this case, AI) the basis of their entire personality.

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24 points

In this case the same people made both, so they are already practiced

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-2 points

‘Android’ is a certification with requirements in installed Google apps and homscreen links, so there’s that.

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34 points

It’s the Juicero strategy.

“You can’t squeeze our juice packs! Only our special machine can properly squeeze our juice packs for optimal taste!”

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14 points

Ahh, the good ol’ days, before we knew how batshit AvE was.

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11 points

I’m assuming you’re talking about the YouTuber; It’s been since before the pandemic that I’ve watched AvE, what did he do?

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4 points

Reviewer proceeds to squeeze more juice out with their hands than the machine managed.

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43 points

They are technically not wrong when they say that the whole experience isn’t made up of just an App

They are intentionally dodging the ACTUAL question.

Anyways here is a leak of their “LAM”, which is just playwright for the most part. https://web.archive.org/web/20240424133441if_/https://pixeldrain.com/api/file/vYHXbUwP?download

With that, we have both components, yay?

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6 points

You know, pairing an LLM with Playright is actually a pretty great idea. But that’s something I can totally roll on my own.

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49 points

Their target audience are the most gullible tech evangelists in the world that think AI is magic. If there was a limit to the lies those people are willing to believe, they wouldn’t be buying the thing to begin with.

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8 points

This will flop though. So will the stupid Humane pin.

Either there are very few people that gullible or that group isn’t quite as gullible as you think.

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1 point

Oh 🦆, I was thinking this was humane and wondering why people were saying it is only $200.

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8 points

Investors who don’t bother reading past the letters A and I in the prospectus.

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