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Yeah. And a lot of them get abused; it’s more or less legalized mild-to-moderate torture for most of the time you’re in. And if you don’t have a bunch of spare money in the bank, trying to defend yourself against even bogus charges drops you into a Kafkaesque nightmare where your defending attorney is overworked and jaded, and the cops, judges, and prosecutor are generally all on the same team which has effectively infinite resources. It’s the worst system of all the ostensible democracies, easily, by a clean country mile.

They just closed a women’s prison in California that was more or less a legalized rape-playground for the guards, that everyone had known about for quite a while, but no one could really raise up the inclination to do anything about. Because hey, what the fuck, they’re prisoners. So who cares.

So imagine what a bone-chilling nightmare the Chinese system must be, to manage to be worse than the US by quite a bit.

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You can “imagine” anything you want, that doesn’t mean that it’s happening. Meanwhile there’s documented evidence of prison abuses in the US.

The problem here is you inherently think China is bad but you have no evidence to support it other than what the US says. Are there things to criticize about China? Sure, no place is a utopia, but it’s not some “bOnE-cHiLliNg” place that you imagine it to be.

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Sure. What are some sources do you trust that I could cite?

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Anything that isn’t Western news? Like literally anything

Telesur, CGTN, hell, even RT or Sputnik, literally anything

Edit: How about this: use your common sense? The US has lied about WMDs in Iraq, so maybe believing what it says about one of the countries it hates the most isn’t a good idea?

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The same people who profit off of the US prison system are the same people who tell you China is “worse” to justify their own atrocities. Jesus fucking Christ.

My neighbour is a bit of an asshole, so imagine how much more of a piece of shit you must be, you probably murder and eat babies. I have no evidence for this, but I can imagine it, which makes it true.

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Dude, I didn’t bring up China initially. They’ve both got very bad prison systems. I’m just pointing out that it’s silly as OP did to hold up some positive example of what happens to you in China if you protest the government versus the (already pretty undemocratic) things that happen in the US. There’s no comparison.

I mean, you can try. Are you Chinese or know someone in China? It’s not that hard to just go out on the street with a poster talking about Tienanmen or overthrowing Xi Jinping, and report back about your experiences.

I’m happy to show evidence comparing the systems. What are some sources you trust that I could cite?

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Shut the fuck up baby murderer. The fuck is wrong with you? Why do you love murdering babies so much?

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