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No it’s not, it’s taking control of the party back from the people that only care about donors.

It’s a private organization, but they haven’t always had the keys, it’s like a HOA.

When it’s good, no one cares who’s in charge, so shitty people sneak in.

The shitty people make things shitty, people accept it because the shits stacks up slowly.

Then one day they’re tired of it, and they have to wait till the next HOA board vote to replace them.

It’s not as easy to replace the people leading the DNC, but it’s doable.

So if 3rd party is something you think can’t happen, are you working on fixing your own party? Are you fighting to replace them?

Do you know any of their names without googling?

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If your idea of taking the party back is “voting independent in the general” I think you have absolutely no idea how elections and parties work. You’re throwing your vote away. You wanna change the party? Run in or work for local elections. Build from the bottom up, not the top down.

Or just whine and throw your vote away.

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Or just whine and throw your vote away.

What is hard to understand about this?

The way to get the most votes is a younger progressive candidate.

How is saying the party should get as much votes as possible “whining”?

Is it because a younger progressive candidate isn’t who you want?

Tough shit

40% of the electorate is gen Z or Millenials.

And the majority of over 45 wants trump

You’re arguing against doing what the bulk of the Dem party wants, but some how I’m the one whining for wanting better than a coin flip chance to deal with trump anymore?

What the fuck is the logic you’re using for this shit?

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No it’s because voting for a progressive third party candidate in the general election for federal office

  1. doesn’t work
  2. benefits republicans
  3. is the prevailing wisdom of people like you

It’s mastubatory whining. You get to claim that anyone who cares about actual outcomes is somehow less pure than you while you are absolved of any of the responsibilities of your vote. You wanna pretend voting third party for president helps? Bully for you. It fucking doesn’t help progressives, it helped Trump get elected and it will do it again.

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You seem to be getting down voted a lot for this comment, but I absolutely agree. The long term solution is to fix the DNC by replacing the corporate schills with progressives. In a city in NH in 2016 we were able to completely replace the local Democratic party with our people. It’s not even that hard, like 50 people vote in those elections.

Everyone should find out who runs their local and state Dems, and start working to replace them if they are garbage. Once the local and state chapters are taken over it won’t be hard to take the DNC

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Except the party wants as little turnout as possible in the general

It’s why they started saying Biden was the winner a good 5 months before the convention and only a handful.of.primaties had happened.

Its why the stole NH’ delegates for voting progressive.

If people could show up and say who they want for president, then theyd vote down ballot tok.

The Dem party isn’t for us, it’s to take advantage of us

But it wasn’t always, and doesn’t have to keep being that way.

But I’m barely old enough to remember when it wasn’t

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They certainly only want people who are going to vote for them to turn up.

I’m not sure what you mean by stole NH delegates.

I wish more people would vote down ballot. Rs almost always vote top to bottom of the ticket, Ds tend to only vote for names they’ve heard of. That’s why Republicans have taken control of so much local government. Democrats need to win the presidential race by a huge margin for enough of it to trickle down to local stuff.

Yes, the current DNC is there to work for the rich, just like the RNC. If we took over the party though, we could make it do whatever we wanted.

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