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Seems odd to say

And don’t @ me about “100 corporations are responsible for like 90% of emissions”. Who’s buying those corporations’ goods?

People bringing up the 100 corporations are usually calling for regulations on them, and the “you’re the ones buying the goods” people are usually calling for Personal Responsibility and Voting With Your Wallet.

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It’s possible to both think those companies should be regulated and that people are doing almost nothing personally to help, including electing people to enact those policies. For most people I talk to the “but 100 corps” is a total deflection of personal responsibility. This crisis will not be solved without a good heaping helping of both personal responsibility and aggressive government regulation. If nothing else because that aggressive regulation will never pass into law unless people acknowledge their personal responsibility and are willing to accept the sacrifices that will come with it.

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In the US, unless you are willing to vote third party, you don’t get the choice to vote for Anti-Capitalist politicians. And there are millions of liberals waiting in line to scold you for not voting for the parties of Capital.

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  1. Primaries
  2. Politicians don’t care because the general population doesn’t care. Guarantee if it was on the top of the list of peoples concerns even the corporate shills of the main parties would give it more than just lip service. but climate change didn’t even crack the top 10 voter issue concerns in 2022 midterms (it was 14th)
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In the US, 3rd parties effectively don’t exist and you’re throwing away your vote.

Vote blue. Remember that Joe Manchin of all people epically played the GOP to get us the IRA. Even corpo shills can advance our cause. Throwaway votes cannot.

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This crisis will not be solved without a good heaping helping of both personal responsibility and aggressive government regulation.

100%. People usually argue for one to the exclusion of the other but we need both.

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Only one actually works.

You can do personal responsibility alone all you want. Nobody will join you. Government regulation affects everyone.

Selling people on personal responsibility is what the oil companies want, because they know it doesn’t work. It gives you the chance to be high and mighty, while nobody else reduces their consumption, so their profits stay the same.

Definitely consume less if you can, but don’t delude yourself into thinking that individual actions in reducing personal consumption achieve anything. Go out there and vote for politicians who propose better climate policies, maybe assassinate some oil, gas and coal company execs, etc.

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No - the ones calling them out are just telling them to be prepared to change their lifestyle after those measurements are taken because it sure as hell won’t go on how it has all the time if those companies just stop.

I get the feeling that a lot of those people that mention the 100 corporations seem to think that regulating those wouldn’t affect them and will probably be really pissed if they can’t afford to fly on holiday twice a year anymore or can’t have meat 3x a day…

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Sorry, I’m so used to hanging out in left-of-center places I make the mistake of assuming everyone understands how BS the whole “personal responsibilty” shtick is and is onboard with strict regulations to fight climate change. So I tend not to explicitly call it out in my posts, assuming it goes unsaid. Which might be a bad assumption to make in more centrist / non-explicitly-liberal spaces.

Will try to be clearer in the future :)

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