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I am going to repeat what I have said for another similar post.

I still stand for Signal App.

  • Telegram has no default E2EE, Telegram is run by for profit company
  • Multiple flaws were found in Telegram’s encryption algorithm
  • Almost all cleartext messages are stored on telegram server, but signal stores encrypted message temporarily
  • Signal is non-profit & all their source code + finances are public. Even their server codes are publically available
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Telegram is as safe as just using Facebook DMs (unencrypted), only it’s Russian.

I suggest you judge for yourself how safe that is.

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Even if it were encrypted and the backdoor was controlled by the Russian state, logically that would make it safer than Facebook for anyone living in Western jurisdictions. The Russian government cannot get them and is hardly going to exchanging intelligence with its enemies.

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To what extent is it Russian?

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Even if it were encrypted

It’s not.

logically that would make it safer than Facebook for anyone living in Western jurisdictions. The Russian government cannot get them and is hardly going to exchanging intelligence

No it wouldn’t. You shouldn’t opine on what they’d do. They can negotiate, you know. And they are exchanging intelligence all the time.

with its enemies.

If that were true, corporations wouldn’t work with their competitors.

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+1

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Yes, yet telegram isn’t a piece of shit of an app that runs slowly on every device, can’t sync messages because “something went wrong” and doesn’t depend on electron to run. Also, not funded by the CIA.

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Could you not apply this “funded by the CIA” argument to other things such as… The Tor Network? Which was created by the US Military Naval Research? Also some US government departments have donated to Tor. Does that mean Tor is breached?

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Guys, I think all these computers took military funding. Wake up sheeple.

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Okay that’s fair, even if remove that and assume they hold zero influence / there are no cleaver backdoors Signal is still not good when it comes to performance and reliability.

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completely agree with you. I can’t believe why you are getting downvoted. Promoting a platform which is funded by the CIA, US gov and Israel. Completely insane really I don’t understand how people are still believing this. They really need to wake up to the truth otherwise things will never change. Privacy will stay an illusion we give ourselves to believe that nobody can read our messages (even if they absolutely can)

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you believe every mathematician and the crypto people are conspiring to spy on us and call other people insane?

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