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Okay, but like I asked, when do you turn your back on that and work toward something else? When do you say to yourself “it doesn’t matter which of these two are better by whatever metric, I won’t stand by and assent to either of them”?

Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

Even if you took a purely utilitarian approach, at some point both major parties are so far beyond what you consider acceptable that the effect of a third party vote cast with full knowledge that party won’t win is of greater utility than some poison compromise.

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Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

many liberals do not have a cutoff point here. if Democrats were having people executed in the streets, they would argue that more people would be executed in the streets under Republicans, so leftists who don’t vote Democrat are morally bankrupt and effectively on the side of the Republicans.

oh, wait, that’s literally their argument for this election, it’s just that said streets and people happen to not be the good ol’ US of A.

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Are you referring to the wholly justified war in which our allies regularly warn citizens with loudspeakers, dropped flyers, and phone calls where they’re headed next so civilians can evacuate?

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Most Scratched Liberal

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nope!

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Surely some action by the Biden administration is far enough beyond the pale to make you look for a different option, right?

What other option?

This bullshit is exactly what I was talking about. “C’mon, let’s vote third party. I know we can’t win, but morals.”

And elect Trump? Fuck no.

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I wasn’t framing a moral argument. Don’t you have a point Biden could cross after which you’d see more utility in building up a third party for next time?

What do you think will happen if trump is declared the loser?

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Don’t you have a point Biden could cross after which you’d see more utility in building up a third party for next time?

You keep acting as if #1 above won’t be true at some nebulous point in the future. Why?

What do you think will happen if trump is declared the loser?

The same thing(s) that happened last time, probably. Rightoids will cry false election, lots of lawsuits, etc.

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