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DeLaney wasn’t even on my radar. I apologize for being an ardent Bernie voter with Warren as my second choice; I understand that basically makes me a conservative in the eyes of Lemmy’s Very Serious Leftist Brigade.

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Cue Aamon’s Punished Bernie.

Oh well, now we get to choose between stagnation and decline or a fairly rapid fall into christian nationalism.

Anyway, fun thing I learned: It only costs $400 USD to apply for a residency permit to Ecuador, all you have to do is prove you have over roughly $1500 of reliable income a month.

You can rent a fully furnished studio apartment for $350, like a modern apartment, kind that goes for thousands in Sea, SF or LA. A few places have very reliable public transit for a quarter, groceries cost something like a third or less than they do in the US. Also, Ecuador features a diverse range of microclimates where you can almost certainly find something you will love.

Downsides: Youre going to need to learn at least some spanish, do not go to Guyanquil, and be prepared for the power and internet to brown out with some regularity. Also in many places you will probably want a water filter.

Though for many in the US, unreliable power, internet and water likely won’t be that different.

Edit: Also crime statistics.

While Ecuador is basically only in the Western media recently for its ‘skyrocketing’ murder rate, and yes there have been lockdowns and curfews… comparing most of the affordable cities in Ecuador to most cities in the US I would ever be able to afford to live in, nearly every crime statistic, including murder, is significantly less.

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Bernie voter with Warren as my second choice

If you say so.

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