https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1680733391464071169

@Wario64: Xbox Live Gold will apparently transition to Xbox Game Pass Core on Sept 1st

-includes online multiplayer and various benefits -same price as XBLG -Existing XBLG subscribers will convert to Core -includes 25 Game Pass titles -GWG offers will end

cafe.naver.com/xboxinfo/100598

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I really, really don’t like the “games as a service” thing Microsoft is trying to shove into the industry. Just watch, it will pan out exactly like the streaming services. Once the golden years (equivalent of OG Netflix) of “burn money by throwing in more games than we can afford” are over, we will gradually see fragmentation, price hikes, cost-cutting, etc.

Fuck Microsoft.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but whatever.

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I know what you’re saying, and it’s definitely possible this will backfire on us, but currently Microsoft has been really dedicated to PC gaming and have been really good to PC gamers.

All games are released on game pass day 1, which means you can play all of their new games for cheap vs having to pay $100 CAD+ for them. They are also releasing their games on steam, which means you don’t even have to use their platform. They are also integrating other companies into game pass, so you can play EA Games and Ubisoft games if you have a game pass subscription. I played the crap out of battlefield 2042 through my game pass subscription.

They also have the ability to play Xbox only games on PC, which is super awesome. It requires the next tier up, and then you can straight up play Xbox games on your PC. I was playing Banjo Kazooie Nuts & Bolts. It launches the game in some kind of cloud gaming emulator thing.

So idk. I don’t really agree with your Fuck Microsoft attitude, because they are currently being really incredible for the PC gaming market. I say we can be skeptical about the future, but I don’t really see much to hate on right now.

Edit: Microsoft also doesn’t require a subscription. Like I said, you can buy their games on steam, or you can buy them from the Microsoft store. A subscription is optional, and it’s nice for people who want to pay $15 CAD per month and play a crap ton of different games instead of paying out right for 1 game.

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Microsoft … have been really good to PC gamers.

Don’t forget that businesses are not your friend. They don’t care about you. They only care about making money.

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I know. I didn’t say they were. That’s why I said we can be skeptical, but there’s no reason to be so upset screaming fuck Microsoft when they are currently being really great when it comes to gaming.

The same could be said about steam, by the way. At any moment Gabe can fuck us over, or can die and we get fucked, but until we see that happen, I feel like we all trust steam.

You can be skeptical over Microsoft, especially because of their past, but their new manager in charge of their gaming division is doing really well. In fact, I’d say investing in Microsoft for gaming right now is a better deal, considering it’s a cheaper monthly fee. My steam account has a bit over 10,000 dollars of games in it that Gabe can take back at any time. That’s 666 months (55.5 years) of an Xbox game pass subscription in Canada. It’s more risky for me to continue buying on steam. I won’t, as I love steam as a platform, but it still is more risky.

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Well. Of course they are currently good to PC players. They want to take over a large chunk of the market after all.

The new food delivery business local to me has also been giving me a lot of subsidized delivery options. Until they run out of money or own a large chunk of the market that is.

GamePass for me actually ends up being more expensive. The majority of games on there aren’t really good games or one I’d like to play. So once we approach a subscription only model I’ll have to pay 15 money per month to just play that one game I like.

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There isn’t a single game on gamepass you can’t also purchase if you so choose.

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It’s already happened with games like Redfall - just pump out any crap to keep up the “content” numbers.

And then raise prices once you’ve got a large market.

In the end it’ll be like Netflix - mass-produced, low-quality games for a steep subscription - more aimed at sitting your children down to keep them quiet, than a high quality experience for gamers.

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Redfall’s development was started years before Microsoft acquired Zenimax. They had nothing to do with any of the GAAS stuff in that game. In fact people at Bethesda were hoping that Microsoft would cancel Redfall because its development had been so troubled, but Xbox apparently has a very hands off approach with their studios. Maybe that will change in the wake of Redfall’s disastrous release.

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