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“I’m going to bitch online while refusing to do anything”.

They seem like they don’t want to do it.

Again, give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.

Hell, they don’t even put on the appearance of wanting to do it once they do get in power.

Now you’re sticking your head in the sand. Biden is doing a fuckton. He’d do even more if, guess what, he had the house and was polling so well that he could figure there no chance of losing.

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Alright, if you’re not willing to accept the faults and Biden, there is no reason to continue this conversation. You’re living in a fantasy land

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Dude, when you run against an incumbent (Trump), you’re going to get a centre candidate. We’ve discussed this. What happens when the polls say Trump has an advantage? They go further centre.

How do you get even more left (again because Biden is actually doing a fuckton)? You give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories. In all 3 of House, Senate, Presidency.

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No, again, what you explicitly just described was them going to the right and winning elections because of it. How does that make him go to the left?

I’m arguing, and you don’t seem to agree with this, that Democrats are not actually as left leaning as you think they are. They aren’t refusing to enact progressive policies because it’s not politically tenable. They’re refusing to do so because they do not believe in it.

They are much quicker to go to the right than they will ever be to go to the left. And if you think that somehow rewarding that behavior is going to change their minds, then I don’t know how to convince you. You just aren’t being a rational actor.

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