Edited to be slightly more fair to people complaining that they don’t think genocide is good just fine

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They are two different kinds of single issue voters.

this all started from mental gymnastics, and you’re currently trying to straight up claim that single issue voters are in general effective for the republicans but ineffective for the democrats because…reasons…?

I’ll say it explicitly: voting for a candidate doesn’t mean you support any of the candidates positions

For the record, you’re still strawmanning my position, as you have been the entire time. I don’t know whether this is out of malice or a plain failure of comprehension, but—again—voting in support of something is not the same as supporting it. Your neo-nazis are voting in support of Trump’s specific brand of racism.

That said, your response to the hypothetical means you believe your intention is the only important thing in how you exercise your voting right. In which case, what are we doing here? People who aren’t voting for Biden because of his stance on Palestine aren’t intending to get Trump elected, so they’re blameless, right?

Tell that to the Rohingya.

The US also didn’t save them, so I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here.

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The mental gymnastics you’re doing to dodge these very simple and straightforward points would make Neo in the matrix proud.

this all started from mental gymnastics, and you’re currently trying to straight up claim that single issue voters are in general effective for the republicans but ineffective for the democrats because…reasons…?

It’s a pretty simple concept. I’ll use a pizza analogy since kids love pizza.

Republican voters love pineapple on pizza, but we don’t have any pineapple pizza. The Republican voter says “that’s okay, I’ll have the supreme pizza because it’s pretty close”. So the single issue Republican voter gets pizza and the Republican candidate gets elected.

Progressives voters love anchovies on pizza, but we don’t have anchovy pizza, we only have pepperoni pizza. The progressive voter says “fuck off, I don’t want your shitty pizza without anchovies” and then shits all over the pizza. So the progressive single issue voter gets no pizza, no one else gets pizza, and the Democratic candidate doesn’t get elected.

In this case eating pizza is voting for the candidate, not eating the pizza is not voting for the candidate. The Republican single issue voter votes and helps the Republican get elected. The progressive single issue voter doesn’t vote, doesn’t help the Democratic candidate get elected, and since we have first past the post elections in America he helps the Republican get elected.

If you want to pretend like you still don’t get I understand. You’ve intentionally missed the basic concept so many times that you it would be pretty silly to admit you understand now.

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The Republican voter says “that’s okay, I’ll have the supreme pizza because it’s pretty close”. So the single issue Republican voter gets pizza and the Republican candidate gets elected.

compromise with a middle ground is literally the opposite of single issue and it’s insane that you’re still trying to pretend it isn’t

single issue isn’t “ham is kind of like pepperoni”

single issue is “pepperoni or i don’t eat pizza”

republican voters only want pepperoni

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I think we’re very close, I now have hope we can get on the same page with this at least.

There are two types of single issue voters. We’ll call them type 1 and type 2. We call them single issue voters because it is a single issue driving their voting choice.

Type 1 single issue voters care a lot about an issue. So they vote for which ever candidate is closest to their view on that issue. They compromise on that issue and their other views to vote for whoever is closest. These single issue voters help their candidate win.

Type 2 single issue voters also care a lot about one issue. Except if a candidate disagrees with their view even a little bit, they refuse to vote for the candidate. Even if the voter and the candidate agree on nearly everything else, this single issue prevents the voter from casting a vote for the candidate. These single issue voters help the candidates opponent to win.

A lot of Republican voters are type 1 single issue voter.s

A lot of progressives are type 2 single issue voters.

An example (or a strawman if you prefer):

I’m a type 1 single issue voter. I disagree with Joe Biden on many issues, but I vote for him because he’s closest to my views on climate change. So I vote for Joe Biden in support of my goals for climate change. I am helping Joe Biden win. (I’m not really a single issue voter, but this is a strawman)

You are a type 2 single issue voter. You oppose The Genocide™, so you are abstaining from voting (or maybe voting 3rd party because the 3rd party candidates have never had to decide whether or not to support The Genocide™). Because we have a first past the post voting system, and you were a potential vote for Biden, you are helping Trump win.

I don’t know if you would vote for Biden if Israel hadn’t invaded Gaza, but I think you get the point . It is after all a simplified example intended to quickly convey a point.

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