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“their circlejerk” it’s you libs that cannot stand proper debate and end up banning everyone that doesn’t align with your orthodoxy. Countless times I’ve seen many communists arguing in good faith and defending their points in very popular mainstream communities and guess how they’re treated? With bans.

You come here and post some random ass picture out of nowhere clearly in bad faith and label it “meanwhile in communist china”. While it is true China is not perfect and poverty absolutely exists, your comment was clearly made in bad faith in the typical smug-lib fashion, devoid of any critical thinking… Because if you did have any, you’d know about the poverty alleviation campaign in China that ended back in 2020. If you want to have a proper discussion and not be met with hostility, at least make it sound like you do, because I’m sure there are lots of people here that are willing to listen to your arguments and argue back, unlike in the so-called free-thinking liberal spaces.

Slight deviation here, but I find it funny how y’all love to pretend China is capitalist until the moment any imperfection (there are many, and no sane communist would ever deny them, unlike you libs under your capitalist regimes) appears. When that happens, suddenly China is communist and all proper discussions about said imperfection, such as how it came to be and how it can be resolved, (usually made by communists lol) are terminated, since it is you libs and your thought-terminating anticommunist orthodoxy that refuse to look at anything in a critical lens.

Edit: typos and added sources

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With bans.

Sometimes, it’s worse than ban. It’s shadow ban.

I have a feeling that YouTube has this particular behavior where, if my comment was simple and trollish, it’s visible for everyone to see. But if it contains proper analysis that combat the propaganda, it’s invisible.

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right yea, forgot to mention that

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Man, that’s a lot of text.

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it really isn’t, but if all you can say is “that’s a lot of text” then idk what to tell you. Maybe stick around with an open mind and try interacting with the community for a while! You could start by asking (good faith) questions in a few threads, like “oh why do you people support X (genuine question)” and you’ll not only be met with respect but have the opportunity to have a proper discussion.

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I truly appreciate the offer and I do see a lot of posts from the group in my feed so I get some sense of the ethos but be honest. Seeing the meme that started this thread is not a good-faith “let’s discuss the differences” that some of you seem to be saying the group is made up of. It’s more along the lines of “Let’s shit on this thing over here, say our thing is awesome, even through it’s awfully flawed as well” and then half your crew falls apart when someone points that out.

I often do find myself with questions regarding what makes the community so fervent but in fairness, anyone that believes the bullshit being pedaled in the meme would not be someone I would expect a level-headed explanation from.

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Yeah, people here don’t have to sound out our words when we read.

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Maybe that’s it but I think it’s more along the lines of just “post a baseless meme in good faith then stroke each other until we all cum on it.” Nobody seems to point out the ridiculous nature of the original meme but you folks practically fall over each other in an effort to retort any comment that points out that fact.

I’m all for believing in a ideal but come on, you’ve got to admit it would take an 11 year old child’s sense of reality to even believe the insinuation of the OP.

And shit on the US all you want. It’s a terrible system controlled by corporations and the only people that believe who they vote for matters are dimwits that believe the bullshit pedaled to them by the media. I just think you should also understand that the reality of your ideal is no better. It’s just different branding of the same control by those at the top.

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