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The problem is: what is antizionism? If to be antizionist is to oppose the government of Israel, then yes, antizionism isn’t antisemitism. If antizionism is a negation of the legitimacy of the Israeli state altogether, then it’s a form of antisemitism, because it’s denying Jew’s the right of self-determination.

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I feel like when a country goes genocidal, it loses any legitimacy it once had.

I mean Germany is STILL apologizing for the Holocaust and still sweats anytime Poland’s in the news.

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And I hope that, one day, Israel will react in the same way with Palestine. But Germany still exists, and Israel should too.

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Fair enough

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Allowing white Europeans to collaborate with the Nazis and change their last names to fake a national identity that never existed is a ridiculous concept as a right. Zionists were offered other options for their own state and self-determination, but they wanted to steal Palestine instead.

Britain even tried their damndest to help them peacefully integrate into the region, but they couldn’t stop doing terrorism and bombings against the British.

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Jews didn’t steal Palestine. That’s a negation of history: you use a shovel three times anywhere in Israel and you find Jewish remains and artifacts. Cities like Jerusalem had a Jewish majority for ages before 1948. To negate that is antisemitic.

But to find a state legitimate doesn’t mean that the actions of this state are. Germany and Turkey committed genocides, and nobody want the destruction of these countries. France and Britain colonized other countries and committed a lot of crimes there but nobody want the destruction of these countries. Russia or Japan committed a lot of war crimes nobody want the destruction of these countries.

Israel is a criminal state committing genocide and other war crimes and should be stopped by all legal means necessary. We should stop arming them. Ee should stop financing them. We should arrest Netanyahu. Maybe we even should send blue helmets. We should fight for a free, independent and peaceful state of Palestine. But without antisemitism, thus without denying the right of self-determination for the Jewish people.

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You’ll have to explain what you mean by Jewish person to me because it’s honestly so watered down as to be meaningless now. Do you mean Jewish people like the ones who were native to that region when those artifacts were left? Do you think those Jewish people were white and didn’t bother coming back until right after sunscreen was invented? Do you mean people who follow the Jewish faith? Because those people don’t support the existence of a modern-day Israel?.

The white zionists who stole Palestine were offered other locations to have a Jewish state and they insisted on using terrorism and Nazi collaboration to go there instead.

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