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No, systemd and GNOME are not part of mainline, and also GNOME and systemd arent obfuscated

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While its possible to find or build a distro without systemd, most of the big names that you would introduce people to use it:

Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, Fedora, OpenSUSE

Hell, Arch uses it

I do get your point about GNOME, and I don’t use a DE anymore so I might be outdated, but Gnome and KDE were the big two back when I used it.

I say obfuscates because gnome configuration is now largely binary, whereas gnome2 used to be text files. The same goes for systemd- the logs are now binary files with journalctl instead of text files

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I think you are either trolling or you fundamentally don’t understand, what you’re talking about.

Nothing is obfuscated. You can download each and every code file, audit it, and build the binaries from exactly that code. You can even compare the binaries to the ones provided by major distros thanks to reproducible builds.

Just because you don’t understand code, doesn’t mean it’s obfuscated. Following that logic, even a loaf of bread is “obfuscated” because you don’t understand sour dough.

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I’m not sure I totally agree with him, what I’m sure is that I don’t agree with you, because you clearly haven’t read his comment.

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That’s not what I’m saying. Yes, it’s open source and you can build the binaries itself. I’m saying that the process is obfuscated or complicated because instead of text log files, you have to use journtalctl to view them.

Then again, someone said it may be text files with markers so I have to look into that

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“…because you don’t understand sourdough”

Made me spit up my coffee.

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Oh no, not binary files that are well-documented and you can know exactly what they’re doing!

Also, the journalctl files are just text with useful markers embedded in them to be easier to filter and search. Run strings on the journal files and see they’re just text with metadata in them.

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I didn’t know that the are text files with markers…

If that’s true, I may hate it less. I’ll have to try that

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You must compile every single software package from source, but only after you’ve examined every single line of the code yourself!

1995 called, they said you’re doing it wrong, and RMS is going to be very mad at you.

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