Israel’s leadership is pushing the allegations that Hamas fighters raped Israeli women during the October 7 attacks for its own political objectives while the government’s ongoing refusal to allow the United Nations to conduct a full investigation into the matter threatens to hinder any evidence, advocates have warned.

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This is the UN report which found strong evidence that widespread rape occurred during the October 7th attack, as well as debunking one or two particular claims that Israel was putting forth which got published in the news.

This is a press release from the UN about it.

For some reason, the couple of lies Israel told about sexual violence became the entire story, overshadowing the much larger truth about sexual violence by Hamas fighters. Most of the infamous NYT story was true.

Just because Israel is actively engaging in a genocide and are committing atrocities 10 times worse than whatever’s coming back to them doesn’t automatically mean that claims of atrocity by Hamas are automatically false.

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The same as one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel, one lie taints the whole Israeli claim of rape.

Lesson to be learned here is don’t fucking lie to embellish a story to get the world on your side.

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The UN report found there is no evidence aside from unverifiable “witness testimonies.” She did confirm that israel had no forensic, video or photo evidence. It all hangs on israeli witnesses which have previously lied. When 10 israeli “witnesses” lie to manufacture rape propaganda there is no reason to believe the 11th.

There is no reason that Pramilla Patten should have classified those israeli provited witnesses are ‘credible’.

The NYT article is completely debunked there is nothing left standing from it. You are straight up spreading propaganda by claiming it holds weight. The reason israel invited Patten to begin with was because the NYT article fell apart.

The claim about NYT is irrelevant too as israel claiming in its interview with BBC that it had video evidence and that there were survivors of rape. Both which are not confirmed fake.

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That is the exact opposite of what the UN report did. Did you actually read it, or if not where did you get all this information you’re telling me?

The executive summary is only a few pages and breaks down a high level of what they found pretty well, and then you can skip to particular sections to see more detail. Pages 4 and 5 have a pretty good high-level overview of which allegations in which locations they believe they gathered reasonable grounds to believe, which allegations they believed they debunked, and which ones they weren’t able to verify or debunk one way or another. Warning, it’s slightly graphic.

In particular, they pretty immediately debunked some of the Israeli governments’ accounts which got repeated early on in the media, actually specifically by comparing them against evidence and by doing their own interviews where they were able.

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If this was true the UN would be saying Hamas raped people. But alas, the UN does not say that.

Instead the UN calls for an investigation like the post says. Wonder why that is…

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Hey, @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world do you provide this much scrutiny when you post articles from your blog websites? Or do you reserve that charitability only for one side?

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There’s a thing called a “reputation”. Lying about rape makes future rape claims without evidence less credible.

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