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-66 points

Much as I’d like to blame Trump for everything bad that happened during his term, the pandemic and surrounding craziness caused a spike in crime, and Trump did not cause the pandemic.

Biden did not end the pandemic or its social impacts. I’d argue the pandemic isn’t really over, but most of its social impacts are.

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I would say Trump might deserve some of the blame for the pandemic because he cut the CDC’s pandemic response funding in the 1st or 2nd year of his term.

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Trump did next to nothing about the pandemic when it turns out “something” was his job

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49 points

Hey, be fair. He actively worked to make it worse and committed literal acts of piracy, stealing PPE intended for blue states and giving them to his son-in-law to resell. Remember when Boston had to borrow the Pats private jet to prevent the PPE that the city bought from being stolen? You bet your ass Pepperidge Farm fucking remembers.

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15 points

I don’t remember much about that, but it’s easy for me to believe he did about any bad deed after these last 8 years

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I have worked hard to remind some of the Trump-voting Massholes I have the pleasure of interacting with on a regular basis of this. I think I’ve made inroads with at least one of them. I also make sure to bring this up:

“The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy.”

Trump committed negligent homicide in blue states for political gain.

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-31 points

Biden also did next to nothing.

In fact, pretty much the entire West did next to nothing. They don’t care if we live or die.

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13 points

What he did do was get vaccine distribution working. That made a world of difference in fatality rates

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11 points

I’m not interested in arguing with a BoTH SiDeS liar and never will be.

Btw thanks for being the reason trump finishes us off. Enjoy the weather in Russia

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34 points

We’re still seeing the endemic effects of the pandemic because Trump did nothing.

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He didn’t do nothing, though. He polarized masks, and the disease itself, killing hundreds of thousands of people.

Edit: I have multiple family members that actually have become fully anti-vax since his presidency. They were NEVER anti-vax before Trump. So he’s likely killed millions of people from the way he handled things.

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11 points

Yes, 100% agree with you. I should have said he did nothing to address the situation, and definitely made it worse, particularly with his remarks.

In 2021 I had to take a Lyft ride in LA for work, and my driver spent the whole ride telling me about his bleach spray that he would spray up with nose and into his throat to prevent COVID smh.

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23 points

Trump and the Republicans extended the pandemic in the US and made it far worse with their policies that turned many of their voters into anti-vaxx and anti-mask lunatics.

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12 points

It is exhausting to hear people talk about “The Crime Wave!” every time any crime metric ticks up by even the smallest margin. We haven’t had “high crime” in the US since the early 90s, but we get media coverage of crime like every major city is an active war zone.

Every four years, we have a President waltz in - point at a blip downward - and say he “Solved Crime!” by throwing an extra ten billion at domestic security budgets. Then a new contender shows up and insists we still need even more cops, because a different stat blipped upwards.

I’d argue the pandemic isn’t really over, but most of its social impacts are.

You’re going to get a lot of very angry people posting at you for suggesting COVID continues to plague the country (particularly service sector workers and people working in meat packing plants, where the disease still runs rampant).

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Yeah, I am in my 40s and when people significantly older than me talk about how crime is worse than it has ever been I am always like “I guess you don’t remember 1970-2000”.

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10 points

Right and Trump is faithful to his mail order wives.

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3 points

Yes. Let’s blame everyone rather than those that committed the crime. I love when critical thinking is ignored. It’s so invigorating to hear mindless dribble instead of concise analysis.

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