Look, we know System76 laptops are based as fuck. I mean, Coreboot, Open source firmware, PopOS, and a fucking open source mobo in the works, just so fucking based.

But man, these framework laptops look cool too. Completely modular and easy to work on. Looks like the company has proved it isn’t going to go under anytime soon.

I’m debating what to get once I feel like upgrading from the trusty ol ThinkPad. What would you buy?

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Did FW ever solve the issue with battery drain during sleep? I owned one of the original batch and sold it because I couldn’t effectively use it as a laptop. Other than that it was awesome, great build quality, loved the ethics of it and the form factor, but being unable to use it as a portable computer was a deal breaker.

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I think it improved by changing the HDMI card thingy and with the new processors.

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I feel like it has gotten better for sure. I use Linux Mint on mine, and while I don’t think it’s quite been “fixed” yet, it’s improved enough to be noticeable.

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One solution I’ve seen has been to enable “hybrid sleep”, where you can have it sleep for some period of time (30m) and afterward go to hibernate.

I still need to check in on it, but one of the biggest issues with sleep on Framework laptop is that the usb-c adapters (like HDMI) passively draw power. If you use 4 usb-c (or just leave it empty), you have better sleep experience.

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Hibernate is it’s own challenge in Linux right now as lockdown mode doesn’t work with hibernate (and I think a lot of distros use lockdown mode by default for security). I had to patch the kernel to enable this: https://gist.github.com/kelvie/917d456cb572325aae8e3bd94a9c1350

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I was able to get hibernate working on Ubuntu with a few config changes. I’m using a swapfile which is the default these days and it takes care of security when used with disk encryption.

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Given that Intel no longer supports S3, hybrid sleep or suspend-then-hibernate is the solution indeed. It works pretty well on my end. I’m using the latter with a 3-hour suspend window. Very rarely I end up cold-booting. Hybrid-sleep is foolproof for those that absolutely can’t tolerate lost state.

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