Most sophisticated Isra*li propagandist

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context

how about a 25-minute video

the Red Army’s advance would have led to Japan’s surrender, the bombs were a warning to the USSR

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

This is applying post facto knowledge to a decision when assessing it ethically. Even if the Japanese had planned to surrender following the Soviet invasion (there is no evidence that any such decision was made before the atomic bombings) such decision was not communicated to any of the Allied powers. Even if an intention to surrender had been teased at, a surrender is not a surrender until the surrendering side accepte terms and lays down arms.

Even if we accept for sake of argument that the US decision makers thought the bombs had zero military value and were purely for show, how do you think it would have gone down if the US had went to Stalin with this information? Stalin, the man who had been pushing for intensified Allied air raids against Germany and a second front since 1941, would have just been like “oh don’t worry about using your new city destroying wonder weapon, I’ll just let Soviet soldiers continue to fight and die in a war you could probably end easily”?

It always comes down to this. Chinese lives don’t matter, Korean lives don’t matter, Soviet lives don’t matter. As long as the precious Fascist civilians get to starve to death instead of being bombed, or conscripted into a kamikaze mission, or shot for dissenting instead, it’s aaaaaalllll worth it!

permalink
report
parent
reply

I think you should probably take the L on this one. It’s very widely known that Japan was on the brink of surrender to the Soviets before they were nuked and any justification of nuking a civilian population center is pretty fucked up.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Sorry. I forgot that as a Ch*k it is my place to bite my tongue and just accept my people being butchered and raped on a daily basis while the Japanese fascists debate surrender at a leisurely pace. I shouldnt hope for Japanese morale to be destroyed in a way irrefutable to all but the most insane Japanese militarists (the ones who tried to coup their own God-Emperor to prevent surrender) because that would be downright uppity of me.

Just come right out and say it. Chinese lives don’t matter. Maybe after that you can go lecture the Palestinians about how firing rockets at Tel Aviv is bad and wrong because precious Israeli civilians might get hurt.

permalink
report
parent
reply

This is applying post facto knowledge to a decision when assessing it ethically.

to some extent, sure, but top US military officers believed that Japan was on the verge of surrender and I doubt they kept this to themselves

It always comes down to this. Chinese lives don’t matter, Korean lives don’t matter, Soviet lives don’t matter. As long as the precious Fascist civilians get to starve to death instead of being bombed, or conscripted into a kamikaze mission, or shot for dissenting instead, it’s aaaaaalllll worth it!

they weren’t “Fascist civilians”, they were civilians in a fascist country; this was intentional mass murder of civilians, not just accidental casualties caused by attacks on military targets

permalink
report
parent
reply

Shit Reactionaries Say

!shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Create post

Under new rules (Jan 2023), only this “Shit X Say” community is allowed along with Shit Ultras Say.

This community is for anything a reactionary would say that is shit. You know the drill. This includes:

  • Liberals
  • Fascists
  • Conservatives
  • Monarchists
  • Vaushites

etc etc.

Please do include the type of reactionary between brackets [] in your post title if you can.

All posts are marked NSFW (community is NSFW) because most people don’t want to see this on their lemmygrad timeline.

Community stats

  • 690

    Monthly active users

  • 2.5K

    Posts

  • 20K

    Comments