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Do you have to get permission from the government to exercise free speech outside your home? Can you be denied your right to remain silent based on what state you live in? What other right can simply be denied to adults?

Treating the 2nd Amendment like a first-class right is hardly ‘expanding’ it.

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POV: You don’t know what the words “well-regulated” mean

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“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

I am just courious. What does that whole statement mean to you?

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Why did you add a comma between Arms and shall?

Also basic grammar. “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.” Is an independent clause. This is the right.

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State” is a dependent clause and just provides reasoning.

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Thats how I interpret it it too, If they only wanted just the militias to be armed they would have said the right of the militias to keep and bear arms, but they said the right of the people. This is and was intended to be the most prestigious legal document in their proto-country. I have to assume they used the language they did on purpose.

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That was decided by a different SCotUS before I was born. Quite literally doesn’t matter what it mean to us.

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You can still see consequences from yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. Let’s not pretend that there can be no reasonable constraints on these things.

Ps. WHERE IS THE WELL REGULATED MILITIA?

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With respect to yelling “fire” - you’re not charged with the speech, you’re charged with inciting the ensuing panic.

With respect to the militia - the words “the people” are used in several places in close proximity to the usage in the Second Amendment. The meaning of “the people” in the Second Amendment can’t be construed to mean “the militia” without some serious mental gymnastics.

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What other right can simply be denied to adults?

The right to life and liberty, by any gun owner, at any moment, for any reason.

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What the hell are you talking about? Murder is illegal. What world do you live in where that isn’t the case?

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Murder is illegal, but the supreme court has said that it’s okay to sell murder weapons to people who are obviously going to commit murder.

Because the right-wing nutjobs hate background checks, and red flag laws and anything else that slows down the constant murder.

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Iirc there was already some cases that decided that the government does have to right to decide what types of weapons you can own.

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And what kind of speech you can say. For example, hate speech, incitements to violence, and of course yelling “fire” in a crowded theater.

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Hate speech is legal and incitement to violence has to be imminently dangerous. AFAIK all limitations of speech have to do with immediate public safety

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And numerous forms of protest too. Anything that gains traction is then declared a “riot” or “illegal assembly” and dealt with harshly.

None of these 2A supporters seem to care that you need a permit to protest or register to vote, but ask for people to get even the most basic of training before purchasing an object specifically designed to kill people and suddenly its “but muh rights!”

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yelling “fire” in a crowded theater

Is part of an overturned court case. And even before it was overturned, the limit wasn’t that you couldn’t yell ‘fire’, the limit was you couldn’t create harm via your actions. (Ex, if there was a fire, you did nothing illegal by saving others).

To circle this back to the 2nd Amendment. One can own and carry a gun, one can even save others with their firearm, one cannot murder people.

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