Part of the reason I have autism in my name is so comrades I expect to be able to do so will not try to dunk on me for normal autistic behavior like caring about accuracy in rhetoric.
Please don’t take a defensive stance and attack me like I’m some federated user (not that you all aren’t obnoxiously agressive with federated users who havent actually earned it anyway sometimes, ive called it out a few times recently) spouting liberal rhetoric.
This is an obvious subtweet so fuck it i’m just going to screenshot what im talking about
In this thread I was arguing with the federated lib elsewhere, which was easy to see. But these two users here @Kieselguhr@hexbear.net and @ElHexo@hexbear.net decided to compare me to liberal fact checkers (liberal fact checkers use differences that dont actually matter to try to spin things as false, this is not what was happening here, as I wasnt trying to spin Kieselguhr as false, merely give them advice, AND the difference actually is material). Which frankly is an insulting comparison to make towards an autistic comrade. Then ElHexo decided to tell me information I already knew but wasnt relevant to the correction I made.
Fact checking isnt inherently wrong and playing fast and loose with information in your rhetoric isnt lib shit. Don’t give people holes to gotcha you with lmao. Caring about truth is supposed to be one of our values. We are materialists. The fact that they got upbeared over me for this dunk bothers me too, wish I could see upbears so I could correct everyone involved in that too. Please, as leftists, care about truth and dont give liberals opening to gotcha you with. The fact that you’ve let the bad faith actions of liberal fact checkers start to make you post-truth is not a good sign. Readjust your thinking.
Finally, you really shouldnt approach any fellow Hexbear doing this by assuming bad faith like this, but especially not one with autism in the username. I was trying to improve rhetoric, not prove you wrong. Coming at me aggressively was not an appropriate response. We really should have an official rule of assuming good faith from fellow Hexbears. Especially long standing ones like myself, and ones who are open about being neurodiverse on top of that.
Because it isn’t relevant to the original point which didn’t say ALL democrats gave a standing ovation, just that Democrats did. Half of the party not being there is just a cop out and nitpicking. They weren’t absent because they’re vocally opposed, they just weren’t there so that ‘fact’ doesn’t change anything.
say ALL democrats gave a standing ovation, just that Democrats did.
“The Democrats” to me implies all, but I can see how this would have been a misunderstanding.
They weren’t absent because they’re vocally opposed, they just weren’t there so that ‘fact’ doesn’t change anything.
Most of them did make an official anouncement of why they werent attending. I saw a bunch of them on, of all places, Chen “lifetime bitch” Weihua’s account. I just wasnt really that impressed with the specific rhetoric and reasons they used, as I mentioned in that reply in the screenshot.
“The Democrats” to me implies all, but I can see how this would have been a misunderstanding.
This kind of reminds me of when someone says, “not all men” in response to criticism of “men” as a whole in feminist or women-centered spaces. (For example: “Not all men are paid more than women.” Like, no, not every literal man receives higher pay than women, but it’s common enough that it’s a systemic issue).
Let me disclaim that I’m not saying that you would have that same kind of reaction to that statement, just that it’s unnecessarily splitting hairs and kind of missing the point of the original argument. The statement that “The Dems” gave Bibi a standing ovation is factually true, and is indicative of the general opinion and behavior of the Democratic party as supporters and enablers of Israel’s atrocities.
I’m autistic too, and it sucks that we tend to interpret things literally and can sometimes miss the intended subtext when someone makes a statement. Hope what I’m saying makes sense and doesn’t come across as criticism!
