A record number of athletes openly identifying as LGBTQ+ are competing in the 2024 Paris Olympics, a massive leap during a competition that organizers have pushed to center around inclusion and diversity.

There are 191 athletes publicly saying they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer and nonbinary who are participating in the Games, according to Outsports, an organization that compiles a database of openly queer Olympians. The vast majority of the athletes are women.

That number has quashed the previous record of 186 out athletes counted at the COVID-19-delayed Tokyo Olympics held in 2021, and the count is only expected to grow at future Olympics.

“More and more people are coming out,” said Jim Buzinski, co-founder of Outsports. “They realize it’s important to be visible because there’s no other way to get representation.”

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Please give us a widely accepted definition for ‘female’ based in science.

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XX chromosomes

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So you’re not female if you have Swyer Syndrome.

In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures.

People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or testes) are not functional. Instead, the gonads are small and underdeveloped and contain little gonadal tissue. These structures are called streak gonads.

Not a woman, right? Despite not even being able to tell even when you see them naked, right?

How about XXY people? Men or women? Because they usually look like men, but at least one got pregnant.

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Correct. Human, worth just as much as everybody else, but not technically female.

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Are you saying we can’t know if someone is male or female just by looking at them and that there are other options according to the discussion below?

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There are clear visual markers, but in the age of misguided mutilations chromosomes are the clearest indicator we have.

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Does not contain male levels of testosterone post maturity.

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What are ‘male levels of testosterone’ exactly?

Are men with hypergonadism not men?

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Don’t be obtuse. It’s considered a malady in males, hence the full term “Male hypogonadism”.

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Females have larger gametes. Males have smaller gametes. Just because this doesn’t apply to 100% of cases doesn’t make this an accepted definition – everything has exceptions in nature. 98-99% is good enough for a categorization though.

Does this affect how transwomen do in women’s category? Probably 98-99% not (hah), since IOC has declared this all works just fine?

Still it’s still a bit controversial, e.g. https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577.full?ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref this study showed one set of cases where hormone treatment removed most differences in transwomen vs women but they remained significantly faster runners.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7846503/ this seems to show that transwomen lose very little of their biological advantage. "Rather, the data show that strength, lean body mass, muscle size and bone density are only trivially affected. "

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Who made this the accepted definition? Because you haven’t shown me who came up with it and who agrees with it.

Also “doesn’t apply to 100% of cases” is not a way to scientifically define something, so I doubt it’s accepted. But feel free to prove me wrong since you came up with links that don’t support your claim.

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Who made this the accepted definition?

Evolution, as far as we can tell.

But feel free to prove me wrong since you came up with links that don’t support your claim.

I usually approach these things from the point of view of trying to reach truth together, not from the point of view of trying to use sources as hammers to beat down your opponent. Are you different from me in this way?

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